No need to wait until Dec. a 8inch Sucker took a 44" striper last week on the main lake.
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No need to wait until Dec. a 8inch Sucker took a 44" striper last week on the main lake.
wow thats a huge fish i never really used them for stripers but the smallies love them. guess ill have to go sein a few and go striper fishin how deep are they during the day right now.
[QUOTE=jamesdenson;384318]yes they are different but the sucker minnows do come in very handy about december on cumberland.[/QUOTE]
So now that we are talking Suckers, who sells them around Cland? Seems like 4-5 years ago, you could get them at Bass Pro, or Lake Pointe Motel, or ADAMS BAIT & TACKLE, or LAKE CUMBERLAND COUNTRY STORE. But ehre lately seems like I can't find them. Just me, or have folks stop selling them?-
Bob my neighbor brought them over from E-town, I think somebody said that after Katrina they quit being shipped in to our area,not sure about that though.
James around thirty feet has been the norm, after all the rain and cooler temps. it may change.
[QUOTE=PRO V LE;384333]Bob my neighbor brought them over from E-town, I think somebody said that after Katrina they quit being shipped in to our area,not sure about that though.
James around thirty feet has been the norm, after all the rain and cooler temps. it may change.[/QUOTE]
Pro V:
Appreciate it . Yep, got the guy in Etown, just hoping to find a source at Cland to avoid buying the night before and hoofing them down there. I think they get car sick! :)
[QUOTE=PRO V LE;384333]Bob my neighbor brought them over from E-town, I think somebody said that after Katrina they quit being shipped in to our area,not sure about that though.
James around thirty feet has been the norm, after all the rain and cooler temps. it may change.[/QUOTE]thx that gives me a place to start at if there not there ill try something else will let you know how i do plan on going thursday.
lol yea they do seem to get a little car sick. if im going early in the morning i have one of the yard ponds for goldfish with a aieator in it i just catch them up the day before and stick them in there. then put fresh water in my minnow bucket with a 2liter bottle of ice and some stay alive. but theres a small creek in my backyard that makes this easy.
[QUOTE=fisherman0625;384272]it is illegal to sell chubs is the state of ky. If caught live bait lic. will be revoked and a fine will be issued.[/QUOTE]
With so many myths about what is legal and illegal about bait aquatics, it is wise for a resident and/or a visitor of any state to do ones homework so as to avoid fines and penalties. Ask anyone who's business it is to know the answer. Such an individual would have the resources to steer you in the right direction.
It is NOT illegal to sell chubs in the state of Kentucky as long as the seller is a properly licensed bait aquatics dealer in the state and has indicated an interest in selling a certain species during the licensing process. Therefore, a dealer must make available to the licensing bureau, the various species they intend to sell so that these species are specifically listed on the license as it is issued.
This step is in place to assure the [URL="http://fw.ky.gov/"]Kentucky Department of Fish and Wildlife Resources[/URL] that all live bait distributors remain in compliance with Kentucky's requirements for the transport of live aquatics into the state from an approved out-of-state location. Bill's Bait & Tackle happily reports that it has never experienced a recall or quarantine on any of its live aquatics in five years of operation.
There are some areas in which live aquatics are restricted such as managed lakes at Ft. Knox (information available at Bill's) and some area pay lakes (also available at Bill's). We hope this information clears up any misconceptions.
Always remember to respect and protect your public and private waterways. And happy fishing!
Bill
Didnt clear up much for me because i 2 work at a bps in eastern ky and sell live bait. I have a live bait lic. and was told it is illegal to sell shad and "chubs" as they are native to out waters and can be caught by everyday fisherman. Just my 2 cents about it
[QUOTE=fisherman0625;384480]Didnt clear up much for me because i 2 work at a bps in eastern ky and sell live bait. I have a live bait lic. and was told it is illegal to sell shad and "chubs" as they are native to out waters and can be caught by everyday fisherman. Just my 2 cents about it[/QUOTE]
This may help: I bolded some sections. Looks like shad is okay as long as taken with a commericial fishing license. Note differences between what a commercial fishing license lets you do vs just a dealers license. One can catch and sell, the other can only sell and the sources of the bait differ between types of license. Note bait has to be taken by the methods prescribed, and at the places allowed as shown below:
301 KAR 1:132. Sale of live bait.
RELATES TO: KRS 150.175, 150.180, 150.280, 150.450, 150.485
STATUTORY AUTHORITY: KRS 150.025
NECESSITY, FUNCTION, AND CONFORMITY: KRS 150.025 authorizes the department to promulgate administrative regulations relating to the taking of fish and wildlife including where the fish and wildlife may be taken. This administrative regulation establishes the conditions and provisions under which live bait may be taken, transported, and sold. It is necessary to protect the state's aquatic resources; to more clearly designate licenses needed to take and sell live bait, and to add a more effective method to take Asiatic Clam (Corbicula fluminea), a recently recognized live bait.
Section 1. Definitions. (1) "[B][U]Live bait" means minnows; shad; herring; crayfish; salamanders; all frogs, except bull frogs; all tadpoles; native lampreys;[/U][/B] Corbicula and aquatic invertebrate organisms. Live bait refers to the condition of the animal when taken even though it may eventually be sold as a part no longer living.
Section 2. Live bait may be sold by a licensed live fish and bait dealer if purchased from a recognized source as specified in this administrative regulation. [B][U][I]Live bait can be sold by a licensed commercial fisherman only if taken in accordance with this administrative regulation.[/I][/U][/B] Corbicula may be taken and sold as bait by a licensed mussel fisherman. The source of live bait is permitted if:
(1) The live bait is hatched and reared by a licensed propagator in standing private water (ponds or lakes) or commercial hatchery raceways within the boundaries of Kentucky;
(2) The live bait is purchased from legal commercial sources located in states other than Kentucky; however, licensed live fish and bait dealers doing business in Kentucky having possession of live bait obtained from sources outside of Kentucky must have a bill of sale showing the date and number of each kind of organism purchased or obtained;
(3) The live bait is purchased from a licensed mussel fisherman, Corbicula may, if taken by means of a legal brail, be resold as bait. No other species of mussel may be sold for bait;
(4) The live bait is purchased from a licensed commercial fisherman, Corbicula taken by means of a tagged commercial bait rake may be resold as bait as specified in Section 3 of this administrative regulation; and
(5) The live bait is purchased from a licensed commercial fisherman. Shad, herring, and other live bait may be sold in whole or part if taken as specified in Section 3 of this administrative regulation.
Section 3. Live bait may not be harvested by any method from any public stream for commercial purposes [B][U]except as specified in this section.[/U][/B]
(1) [B][U]Licensed commercial fishermen may sell live bait taken in legally set commercial fishing gear.[/U][/B]
(2) [B][U]Licensed commercial fishermen may take and sell shad and herring only if taken by use of a dip net of a diameter of three (3) feet or less made of any type material or cast net twenty (20) feet maximum diameter with one (1) inch maximum bar mesh in the Tennessee River, Kentucky River downstream from Lock #14, Ohio River, Cumberland River below Barkley Dam, Mississippi River and in all lakes 1,000 acres or larger.[/U][/B]
(3) Licensed commercial fishermen may sell live bait if taken from the Mississippi and Ohio rivers only by the use of a one-fourth (1/4) inch mesh seine no more than thirty (30) feet long and six (6) feet deep.
(4) Licensed commercial fishermen may take and sell Corbicula by use of a tagged commercial live bait rake in commercial waters only.
(a) The rake may be no more than twenty (20) inches wide, have tines no longer than five (5) inches, the tines may be set no more than one (1) inch apart, and the basket of any material may be no larger than eight (8) inches by twenty (20) inches by ten (10) inches with a rigid handle no longer than twenty (20) feet. A commercial gear tag must be permanently attached to the handle.
(b) The rake must be operated with the handle in hand. No bridle to permit dragging is allowed.
(c) All mussels taken other than Corbicula must be immediately returned to the water unharmed.
(d) It shall be illegal to have a commercial live bait rake in a boat that also has a mussel brail aboard or attached to the boat regardless of what type licenses the occupants possess.
Section 4. Possession of live bait by a licensed live fish or bait dealer obtained in any other manner than those specified in Section 2 of this administrative regulation is prohibited.
Section 5. All individuals, corporations, or other business entities transporting, selling, or possessing live bait for sale in Kentucky are required to have an appropriate live fish and bait dealers license issued in the name of the individual, corporation, or other business entity that is transacting business in this commonwealth. This license or exact copy thereof must be in the possession of the persons who are transporting, selling, or possessing these organisms in Kentucky. This license is not in lieu of a propagation or transportation permit if they also are applicable to the operation.
Section 6. Those individuals, corporations, or other business entities transporting live bait from one state to another state through Kentucky without conducting any type of business in this commonwealth are not required to have a live fish and bait dealers license, but must have a valid transportation permit.
Section 7. Those individuals, corporations, or other business entities who sell any of the organisms above mentioned for food in establishments licensed by another state agency to sell retail or wholesale food stuffs are not required to have a live fish and bait dealers license. (KRWT-F-LB2-1; 1 Ky.R. 347; eff. 2-5-75; Am. 4 Ky.R. 125; 227; eff. 12-7-77; 26 Ky.R. 2295; 27 Ky.R. 484; eff. 8-14-2000.)
Bob, thanks on behalf of all of us for clearing up this issue. Good to know it's OK to trap, buy, sell and fish with chubs in KY. ;) Just stay within the guidelines of the law. Now, just need to find a place close to LC to buy them. E town is just to far for me to go. :(