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[QUOTE=FlyLie;472970]OK, fair enough, you took your shot. So, how would you, or how does history describe the late Gov Wallace of Alabama?[/QUOTE]
First thing is...all I knew or thought I knew was he was a popular Governor and a racist. He was for segregation and IMO it was based on ignorance, the times he lived in and fear.
I did read a little about him since you asked and now what I have learned is he was a democrat!?!? How ironic huh? I read about him and I won't continue typing stuff I just read since it's there for us all to read.... But I do appreciate the tip because I never spent the time to read about him. It's hard to imagine people voted for him the way they did.:)
What was your point? That Alabama had race issues? That they still do? Well i can tell you with 100% accuracy that all states do...some worse then others and every race is effected by it. Heck that's not news at all and I don't see any comparison to illegal immigration versus ignorance and fear from the 60's about black people. I just don't....
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Sorry I'm on my iPad and I can't edit a long post. I was going to say even the actions of Alabama today are totally different than anything that happened under his watch. The KKK doesn't play into this comparison either.....unless they have been hanging illegals and burning crosses in their yards. With all due respect I really don't follow you on this.
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[QUOTE=FlyLie;472969]So, you say, Those lands were conquered by the United States and that somehow makes it ok????
GUESS THAT MAKES IS ALL RIGHT WITH THE SO CALLED CHRISTIAN GOD! SO, IF YOU WANT SOMEONES COUNTRY (THEIR OIL, ETC), OR FOR THAT MATTER YOUR NEIGHBORS (WHATEVER), THEN JUST PICK UP A GUN, OR CALL UP THE ARMY AND GO TO WAR, KILL THEIR ASS AND IT'S YOURS AND THE CHRISTIAN GOD WILL BLESS YOU AND YOU ANCESTORS?
Unfortunatily, that seems to be the way of mankind, doesn't seem to matter who they refer to as their God. But as for me..., as you suggest "move somewhere else less oppressive", no, I'd rather stay here and hope that the day will come when the people of this nation become enlighten/intelligent enought to discard our past associations with bigitory and the so called white supremacy (European) mentally, much less out selfish desires to wage war in order to satisfy our greed!!
As for apples, do enjoy eating them once or twice a week, most refreshing. By the way, I grown my own.[/QUOTE]
Nice try.
1). I said I'd pick up a gun and PROTECT my homeland, not invade another. BIG DIFFERENCE.
2). When was the last time the United States Expanded, or took lands??
3). Nice that you have such disdain for ignorant, unintelligent, bigoted Americans.
Later,
Geo
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[QUOTE=FlyLie;472970]OK, fair enough, you took your shot. So, how would you, or how does history describe the late Gov Wallace of Alabama?[/QUOTE]
Can't say how DJD describes him, but I think history is going to remember his as an amazing story of a man who changed his way of thinking, and set an example for many others to follow. How do [I]you[/I] think it will "describe" him?
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[QUOTE=kyfanatic;472971][QUOTE=Tim_T;472956]
Reading Comprehension couldbe your friend,obviously you haven't been sober long enough to differentiate between LEGAL IMMIGRANTS and ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS,big difference.
Oh and bad back and all,I'm not scared of your big ,bad,Mexican neighbor.
I have news for you,I was hiring Legal Mexican Immigrants to work for my construction company when you were still playing recess in school.I can tell you plenty of the tricks they use to abuse our system and get around illegally in this country from having several very good friends that happen to be Mexican,if you want you can call them and ask them about my KKK membership.
I'm willing to bet that I've spent more time in Mexico,Belize,Guatemala,Honduras,Panama,and Costa Rico than anybody on this forum,go to my facebook page and look at my photo albums.
Then come up to UC's Medical Science Building where i'm working and ask the Hispanics there how I treat them,they talk to me more than anybody because I know their language and customs.[/QUOTE]
The whole point was Bugs friend was not just talking about illegalls, methinks it is you with the reading comprehension problem. You actually defended him saying it in the post, their is no misunderstanding about what he said and yet you were defending it because some people come here illegally. It's not hard for honest, clear thinking individuals to figure out that was a racist comment. Then you try to defend it and yourself with the old standby that racist have used for years, "I have a (black, hispanic, Jewish, homosexual) friend."
As for my neighbor, he probably has better things to do with his time than mess with an old bitter individual like you. Get your back healed up, get in shape and try a rematch with your neighbor who kicked your azz!
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[QUOTE=Tim_T;472990][QUOTE=kyfanatic;472971]
The whole point was Bugs friend was not just talking about illegalls, methinks it is you with the reading comprehension problem. You actually defended him saying it in the post, their is no misunderstanding about what he said and yet you were defending it because some people come here illegally. It's not hard for honest, clear thinking individuals to figure out that was a racist comment. Then you try to defend it and yourself with the old standby that racist have used for years, "I have a (black, hispanic, Jewish, homosexual) friend."
As for my neighbor, he probably has better things to do with his time than mess with an old bitter individual like you. Get your back healed up, get in shape and try a rematch with your neighbor who kicked your azz![/QUOTE]
Sounds to me like you need a drink.
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[QUOTE=Tim_T;472956][QUOTE=kyfanatic;472951]I have no problem with legal immigration from any nationality,but all our Latino neighbors to the south pouring across the sanctity of our border illegally,taxing our public services,jails,schools,Hospitals,and welfare systems needs to be stopped.Unemployment figures do not show those that have run out of benefits or have given up on finding a job,meanwhile these illegals keep taking jobs and our tax dollars away from legal American Citizens.
How fast do you think Obama's Trillion Dollar spending would get paid off with all that extra cash?
[B]In that aspect I have Nary a problem with Alabama or George Wallace.[/B]
[B]All this politically correct sensitivity BS has ruined this country.Man Up,be Law Abiding,or get out[/B].[/QUOTE
His comment had nothing to do with illegals, it had to do with Mexicans in general. If you are okay with that, then I have a suggestion. I will give you directions to where I live. I have a next door neighbor who's parents came her LEGALLY from Mexico and he was born here. Why don't you come over and make some of those witty comments to him? Make sure I am home because I want to watch the azz whippin he gives you when you say it!
This is not about pollitical correctness, it is about treating another human being with the respect you would expect to be treated with.[/QUOTE]
Someone is wrong about my friend's comment. My thread was about illegal aliens and my friend's comment was completely about illegal Mexicans. Someone has turned it into Mexicans in general. My friend was talking about ILLEGALS. He never referred to the KKK or "George Wallace's Alabama"....WHATEVER THE HECK WAS MEANT BY THAT. George Wallace was simply governor of Alabama, first elected in 1962 and his last term ended in 1987. He has been dead since September 19, 1998, eleven years after he served as governor. How can it be his state when it never was? Alabama was never his state, it belonged to all of us. George Wallace renounced segregation before he died. Alabama is always singled out as being a KKK controlled racist state but almost every state in the USA has had or now has racial problems.
A new hospital is being built here and will open in February 2012. The local people both blacks and whites weren't hired because the contractor, from Louisiana, was hauling illegal Mexicans in and they got all the jobs. Very few locals were able to find work. Now I hope it's easier to understand why the Chief Detective whispered that comment to me. The contractor had to take his illegals and haul @ss back to where they came from when the law was passed. It went into effect immediately.
Racism is alive and well in Alabama and Mississippi and it's not the whites who are the problem. If you walk into a grocery store in this town and your cashier is black, you can expect to bag your own groceries, and load them into the shopping cart. When you walk up to the counter in either Church's Chicken or McDonald's, the black cashiers make the whites wait until they have served all the blacks that are in line.
I had two incidents of racism from blacks when I tried to pay my property taxes. One black told me she wouldn't change the address on my account unless I produced the deed to my property, plus my husband's driver license. I inherited both of those estates and the deeds are in my name only. I asked her how she thought I could do that when he was in another state and always carried his license with him. She told me to step aside and let her serve the other 4 (blacks) in line behind me. She was holding in her hand the bill she sent to me with the correct address on it but was trying to use my old address. She said there was no use in me going to the Assessors office because they were behind a year on their recordings. I then went to the court records dept. to get a copy of my deed and had to deal with another black. She said she wouldn't give it to me unless I gave her the book and page number. All the records are in alphabetical order in books and all she had to do was look up my name. She looked up a record for a black man in line behind me. I got fed up and went to the Assessor's office and told them the black woman in the Tax Collectors office said they were behind a year on their recordings and I couldn't get my address changed for at least another year. That time I was talking to a white woman; she went ballistics. She typed my name into the computer and all my records were in order and had been recorded since I first carried my deeds in 3 years ago. Then she called the first black person where I tried to pay my taxes and told her their records were in order and to issue me a refund, that she had overcharged me by $53 for last year's taxes. I'm sorry this post is so long but felt that I needed to better explain a few things.
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[QUOTE=FlyLie;472953]Do I read this right?, the KKK is alive and well in Alabama and (? parts of KY?)
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No, you didn't read it right. You just tried to kick up an argument. Nobody but you mentioned the KKK, which tells me you either aren't thinking clearly or just don't have anything worthwhile to say.
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[QUOTE=bassin_bug;472993][QUOTE=Tim_T;472956]
Racism is alive and well in Alabama and Mississippi and it's not the whites who are the problem. If you walk into a grocery store in this town and your cashier is black, you can expect to bag your own groceries, and load them into the shopping cart. When you walk up to the counter in either Church's Chicken or McDonald's, the black cashiers make the whites wait until they have served all the blacks that are in line.
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I know AL and MS quite well, and it is BOTH blacks and whites that are the problem. To say it's just blacks is incredibly narrow sighted.
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[QUOTE=RoadToad;472986]Can't say how DJD describes him, but I think history is going to remember his as an amazing story of a man who changed his way of thinking, and set an example for many others to follow. How do [I]you[/I] think it will "describe" him?[/QUOTE]
A good case study for Southern Politics 101!!
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Same old Liberal Democratic Obama loving rhetoric,take an arguement about people ILLEGALLY crossing the border (breaking the law) and costing legal citizens billions of dollars and turn it into a race card event.
Funniest thing of all was that the KKK was started by DEMOCRATS.
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[QUOTE=kyfanatic;473015]Same old Liberal Democratic Obama loving rhetoric,take an arguement about people ILLEGALLY crossing the border (breaking the law) and costing legal citizens billions of dollars and turn it into a race card event.
Funniest thing of all was that the KKK was started by DEMOCRATS.[/QUOTE]
So, does that mean you are For or Again Em! The KKK, I mean.