Re: Kentucky. Louisville. National Semi-Final.
[QUOTE=jcb;485563]I think this is true for UK, but not for UL.
[B][I][U]This game features four, maybe five NBA first-rounders[/U][/I][/B] vs. none. It's Rocky vs. Drago, Centre vs. Harvard, Douglas vs. Tyson, the 1969 Mets vs. the Orioles, USA Hockey vs. the USSR in 1980.
It's all about expectations. UL has already far surpassed theirs, a feat which is impossible for UK--the Cats can only *meet* their expectations with a national title.[/QUOTE]
If you are talking about thsi years draft then I agree, but I expect Behannan and Deing to be first round picks next season and if Blackshear ever gets healthy he is a definite first round pick. I think a lot of fans don't realize how good Blackshear was before he got hurt. He was a McDonald's All-American last season and the Chicago Player of the year over Anthony Davis.
Re: Kentucky. Louisville. National Semi-Final.
Kentucky wins the game by 15 if not more. Louisville made it to the Final Four, which is a great accomplishment for them, but that is as far as they go. People can say Louisville is not the same team but neither is Kentucky. Cats 82-60
Re: Kentucky. Louisville. National Semi-Final.
While there may be more pressure on UK than on Louisville to win, it's not like there is no pressure on Louisville. There's a lot at stake for both sides. I think Mark Story's article sums it up nicely:
[URL]http://www.kentucky.com/2012/03/26/2127364/mark-story-no-pressure-pitino.html[/URL]
As for the "My Team" thing...he recruited the players, he coaches the players, he's the boss...it's his team. Cal has never been accused of not possessing an arrogant and sometimes snide demeanor.
Can't coach? Really? I aint saying that he's the second coming of John Wooden or anything, but he can coach. You don't bring in this many talented 18 year old kids that have been told all their lives how great they are and just throw them on the floor and let natural ability rule the day. You coach your ass off. You coach your ass off more so than if you had a squad of Veterans. At Kentucky, you also do it in a pressure cooker. I don't buy into the "Cal Can't Coach" thing.
The last 3 years....3-0 versus Louisville....UK has brought in more 5-Star Rivals recruits than I can count on both hands, to Louisville's 1....an Elite Eight, a Final Four, and a Final Four....with a National Title 2 games away if Louisville doesn't beat us Saturday.
If they do, all the spoils go to the victor.
If they don't, change the team colors to green...with envy...
Re: Kentucky. Louisville. National Semi-Final.
[QUOTE=MrSplitshot;485610]...if Louisville doesn't beat us Saturday.
If they do, all the spoils go to the victor.
If they don't, change the team colors to green...with envy...[/QUOTE]
Nah...this is one of the biggest myths out there, that most UL fans are jealous of UK.
Howard Fineman got it right in his [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/25/kentucky-louisville-final-four_n_1378714.html"]Huffington Post piece[/URL] -
"Since 1971, the two schools have exhibited something close to parity -- not in the minds of most Kentuckians outside of Louisville, but in the minds of fair-minded basketball fans and in the stat sheets....
From 1971 until now, Louisville has won two National Championships and been in eight Final Fours, and Kentucky has won three National Championships and been in nine Final Fours.
UK fans hate these numbers, and hate the U of L with a schizophrenic mix of dismissive casualness and furious loathing. U of L fans, by far a minority in the state outside of Louisville (and even in Louisville UK allegiance is strong), are generally glad just to be on the same stage and now on a par nationally."
As someone who's both a UK and UL fan, I think that's spot on.
Re: Kentucky. Louisville. National Semi-Final.
And Calipari is a dang good coach. Not as good a coach as he is an image builder/recruiter, but a good coach.
Re: Kentucky. Louisville. National Semi-Final.
[QUOTE=Tim_T;485598]If you are talking about thsi years draft then I agree, but I expect Behannan and Deing to be first round picks next season and if Blackshear ever gets healthy he is a definite first round pick. I think a lot of fans don't realize how good Blackshear was before he got hurt. He was a McDonald's All-American last season and the Chicago Player of the year over Anthony Davis.[/QUOTE]
Yes I was talking about this year.
Blackshear's injury (along with Siva, Marra, Buckles's injuries) is one of the things that makes me think this is Pitino's best coaching job ever.
Re: Kentucky. Louisville. National Semi-Final.
[QUOTE=Tim_T;485598]If you are talking about thsi years draft then I agree, but I expect Behannan and Deing to be first round picks next season and if Blackshear ever gets healthy he is a definite first round pick. I think a lot of fans don't realize how good Blackshear was before he got hurt. He was a McDonald's All-American last season and the Chicago Player of the year over Anthony Davis.[/QUOTE]
What few times he was on the hardwood I thought Blackshear showed glimpses of what he's capable of, and if he stays healthy he'll probably be a stud...Unless Dieng improves drastically, anybody that takes him in the first round is drafting on potential alone....If he goes first round it'd be towards the end to a good team who he sees him as a possible second string 4...Behannen really needs to develop some simblance of an outside shot...He's not big enough to play the 4 in the league and will have to be able to shoot it to play...I'd say 2 of the 3 wind up being first rounders at some point
Re: Kentucky. Louisville. National Semi-Final.
[QUOTE=mhall;485589]LOL, Yea I caught that after I said it, wasn't worth changing...
Ya know I actually like to watch a match every now and again especially when Nadal, Federer, Jocivich, ''spelling'' are playing. Any sport played at that high a level and I can get into it...:)[/QUOTE]
Only time I'll watch is when 2 of those 3 are playing each other, with the occasionaly Andy Roddick match thrown in...I played some in high school and it still amazes me at how good those guys actually are and how easy they make it look
Re: Kentucky. Louisville. National Semi-Final.
[QUOTE=Fishin is life;485628]What few times he was on the hardwood I thought Blackshear showed glimpses of what he's capable of, and if he stays healthy he'll probably be a stud...Unless Dieng improves drastically, anybody that takes him in the first round is drafting on potential alone....If he goes first round it'd be towards the end to a good team who he sees him as a possible second string 4...Behannen really needs to develop some simblance of an outside shot...He's not big enough to play the 4 in the league and will have to be able to shoot it to play...I'd say 2 of the 3 wind up being first rounders at some point[/QUOTE]
I agree about Dieng.if I were Dieng I'd stay one more yr with Pitino...a healthy Blackshear on the other hand...well, he my have been the one to bring out more in Behannen than the coach. Good players respond better to other good players. I look for Siva to be even better if he stays. If this team holds together and no one leaves it could be a long season next yr for anyone who plays them...
KY,on the other hand, don't know until the last game is played and the newbies come in. Yeah 4-5 guys go to the NBA....4-5 come in to replace them. I doubt there will be another team like this for a while. Look at the first class of thugs. This team is not like that. And that as a fan of UK is what I want.And that as a basketball fan is what I want for the state of Ky...Players that love the game.
We, both schools, have these players right now, Siva and Darius Miller especially. That is why I think this game will be so special.
One question....how many players on these teams are actually from KY...Tim???
Re: Kentucky. Louisville. National Semi-Final.
Gorgui has already stated multiple times he came to Louisville to get a degree.
Re: Kentucky. Louisville. National Semi-Final.
[QUOTE=mhall;485451]They will have to open a suicide hotline if Kentucky looses this game.
There will be people jumping to their deaths, count on it...Probably riots to..[/QUOTE]
Might be a good time to open up a rope shop.
What the UK fans don't use to hang them selves if they lose they can use to lynch Cal. :)
Re: Kentucky. Louisville. National Semi-Final.
[QUOTE=redneckshadrap;485634]I agree about Dieng.if I were Dieng I'd stay one more yr with Pitino...a healthy Blackshear on the other hand...well, he my have been the one to bring out more in Behannen than the coach. Good players respond better to other good players. I look for Siva to be even better if he stays. If this team holds together and no one leaves it could be a long season next yr for anyone who plays them...
KY,on the other hand, don't know until the last game is played and the newbies come in. Yeah 4-5 guys go to the NBA....4-5 come in to replace them. I doubt there will be another team like this for a while. Look at the first class of thugs. This team is not like that. And that as a fan of UK is what I want.And that as a basketball fan is what I want for the state of Ky...Players that love the game.
We, both schools, have these players right now, Siva and Darius Miller especially. That is why I think this game will be so special.
[B][I][U]One question....how many players on these teams are actually from KY...Tim???[/[/U][/I][/B]QUOTE]
For Kentucky the only player that gets time is Darius Miller. For Louisville the only one that gets much time is Justice, and he only plays a few minutes a game. The players really have no stake in the rivalry, they do not come to the schools for the name on the Jersey. College basketball has changed dramatically in the last 20 years. Now they go to the school for the coach. This is not the glory days like most of us grew up with.