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[QUOTE=parker;511491]I thought this topic was about a bogus receipt from a sporting goods store? :confused:[/QUOTE]
Started out that way but a simple search proved it wrong. The point is a new tax and healthcare now....come on man keep up!:p

[QUOTE=parker;511491]I thought this topic was about a bogus receipt from a sporting goods store? :confused:[/QUOTE]

Its a conditioned reflex sort of thing.Say the word tax, and it begins, no thought involved.First the leader responds, then the echos start.

[QUOTE=kygorski;511506]Its a conditioned reflex sort of thing.Say the word tax, and it begins, no thought involved.First the leader responds, then the echos start.[/QUOTE]

WRONG..........it is a tax that hardly anyone knew about, and MOST would have never voted for had they knew about it.


[video=youtube;hV-05TLiiLU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU[/video]

You guys don't GET IT.......never will. They are sucking the very life out of this country. YOU had better wake up.

Later,

Geo

[QUOTE=kygorski;511506]Its a conditioned reflex sort of thing.Say the word tax, and it begins, no thought involved.First the leader responds, then the echos start.[/QUOTE]
Typical response man. If anyone disagrees with Obama and his policies we are either racists or whatever your calling us. At some point you and others like you will feel the pain from this idiot. I'm amazed at how you can't see past your Liberal opinions. You said it before......your time on earth is nearing its end so you really don't have a dog in this fight. So I guess you just sit back and laugh at us working stiffs.

Oh I get it plenty good! Let me tell you a little story of a lady that I go to church with. She has been sick for a while now and she has medicare and her only source of income is SS. She told me this morning after she paid all her bills and what she could to doctors she had six dollars left. I know she should have saved while working is what you say! There are 330 million people in the usa and not every one of them can save like some and I just cant help it if I feel like I can pay a little more to help so be it. I cant bring myself to just say the hell with everyone less fortunate than me! I hear alot of ppl say they would rather the gov let them keep their money and save for any ailments they may have on their own. A few could but I dont think anyone here could ever save enough if you should have something drastic happen and need alot of treatment. A friend of mine had a child in icu for 2 months and that was a cool million which he could never pay in his lifetime so how would you guys go about paying for such a situation?

[QUOTE=parker;511543]Oh I get it plenty good! Let me tell you a little story of a lady that I go to church with. She has been sick for a while now and she has medicare and her only source of income is SS. She told me this morning after she paid all her bills and what she could to doctors she had six dollars left. I know she should have saved while working is what you say! There are 330 million people in the usa and not every one of them can save like some and I just cant help it if I feel like I can pay a little more to help so be it. I cant bring myself to just say the hell with everyone less fortunate than me! I hear alot of ppl say they would rather the gov let them keep their money and save for any ailments they may have on their own. A few could but I dont think anyone here could ever save enough if you should have something drastic happen and need alot of treatment. A friend of mine had a child in icu for 2 months and that was a cool million which he could never pay in his lifetime so how would you guys go about paying for such a situation?[/QUOTE]

I have no problem with that little old lady collecting her social security and then some. She lived in a time when TIMES were good and she was PROMISED being taken care of.

I have HUGE problems paying for the welfare momma with 8 kids livin in the projects, who refuses to work, all the while laying on her back poppin out more welfare kids. White, black, yellow, purple, green, WHATEVER color....those folks DISGUST me, and we have more of those now than ever before.

THAT handout needs to end....PERIOD. I'd advocate forced sterilization in that case.....Man and WOMAN.

We have made it way too easy for people to LIVE off the system that was supposed to be a helping hand. And our current president has made the transition to welfare CRACKWHORE that much easier by extending unemployment for 3-4-5, 10, 20 years...........OK I know it has not been extended that long, but you get my drift.

We simply cannot continue down this path. When that little old woman was promised these benefits, there were 12 workers for every 1 person on Social Security. Now, we're at about 5-6 for every 1 person. That my friends is a formula for failure. Until the politicians step up and say ENOUGH, we will never fix it.

It is not rocket science.....Hell, even a CAVEMAN could understand that simple math.

Later,

Geo

[quote]There are 330 million people in the usa and not every one of them can save like some and I just cant help it if I feel like I can pay a little more to help so be it. I cant bring myself to just say the hell with everyone less fortunate than me! [/quote]

I agree in that I feel the same way about helping others. The difference is I believe in just that, people helping other people. The government has proven itself to be highly inefficient at helping those truly in need. IHMO it it much more efficient and reliable for people to help directly, or through a good charity or local church.

It was never the responsibility or the purpose of our government to take care of individuals, and history has taught us that no matter how much money the government has thrown at poverty the problem has only expanded.

[quote]Let me tell you a little story of a lady that I go to church with. She has been sick for a while now and she has medicare and her only source of income is SS. She told me this morning after she paid all her bills and what she could to doctors she had six dollars left[/quote]

Let me ask you an honest question. Which do your truly believe would help this women more, the people of your church giving of their love, time and money directly to her, or the the people of your church each just paying a little higher taxes to the government?

[QUOTE=parker;511543]Oh I get it plenty good! Let me tell you a little story of a lady that I go to church with. She has been sick for a while now and she has medicare and her only source of income is SS. She told me this morning after she paid all her bills and what she could to doctors she had six dollars left. I know she should have saved while working is what you say! There are 330 million people in the usa and not every one of them can save like some and I just cant help it if I feel like I can pay a little more to help so be it. I cant bring myself to just say the hell with everyone less fortunate than me! I hear alot of ppl say they would rather the gov let them keep their money and save for any ailments they may have on their own. A few could but I dont think anyone here could ever save enough if you should have something drastic happen and need alot of treatment. A friend of mine had a child in icu for 2 months and that was a cool million which he could never pay in his lifetime so how would you guys go about paying for such a situation?[/QUOTE]

Stories like that are touching but I don't care to hear about it....because they are many and we don't know the details. The Libs played those cards during their jamming of obamacare down our throats and if you remember the solution was obamacare... It's not cold hearted its just I don't trust the stories.

The promise of this new program was to fix things....so I guess those kind of stories will be few from now on. You say your willing to pay a little more huh? "A little" is relative man.

[QUOTE=DJD;511542]Typical response man. If anyone disagrees with Obama and his policies we are either racists or whatever your calling us. At some point you and others like you will feel the pain from this idiot. I'm amazed at how you can't see past your Liberal opinions. You said it before......your time on earth is nearing its end so you really don't have a dog in this fight. So I guess you just sit back and laugh at us working stiffs.[/QUOTE]

ECHO!! or is one of them a hand puppet?

DJ youre full of poop! I live with a chronicaly ill person, who worked all her healthy life. The two garment mills he worked for, closed down, NO she wasn't a union "loafer" no pension in either place. The severence she got went toward getting a nursing degree, thats when the illnesses started. She lives on minimum SS. Her medical bill for 2011 were in the mid six figures, there is no way for either hospital to get payment because her medications and secondary insurance leave her with barely enough to pay rent. So I'm a sugar daddy with minimal benefits,but I wouldn't change it.Its hard to imagine, nut think about this. You are one banana peel from the poor house.[ the nut should be but, one of the benefits of old eyes].

The free health care that BO has given us will fix all ills. :)

[QUOTE=kygorski;511550]DJ youre full of poop! I live with a chronicaly ill person, who worked all her healthy life. The two garment mills he worked for, closed down, NO she wasn't a union "loafer" no pension in either place. The severence she got went toward getting a nursing degree, thats when the illnesses started. She lives on minimum SS. Her medical bill for 2011 were in the mid six figures, there is no way for either hospital to get payment because her medications and secondary insurance leave her with barely enough to pay rent. So I'm a sugar daddy with minimal benefits,but I wouldn't change it.Its hard to imagine, nut think about this. You are one banana peel from the poor house.[ the nut should be but, one of the benefits of old eyes].[/QUOTE]

Hahahah thats where your wrong i may have been a few hours ago but not now :) but FYI I have been accused of worse!! To me your missing my point...again. The stories like yours, my family, parkers and anyone else out there are terrible but is Obamacare and the hidden taxes and new ones to come going to fix it?? Yes we are all one step away from the poor house so according to you all we need is the gubment and all will be fine???

I must repeat this because once the emotions start you guys lose track or don't want to admit it but Obama, Pelosi and all the Libs shouted from the tallest perch you placed them on that passing Obamacare would fix everything. Will that happen now?? So you have faith it will?? Was our Healthcare system in need of such major upheaval?? The answer to me is no. The only thing that was driving the Obamacare act was money and control. They have to have more revenue streams to continue to grow. I am not for that.

How will obamacare affect you?? Have you looked into it or been told? I am asking because I don't know.