ukraine

[QUOTE=Moveon;582919]It's a very short distance from Ukraine to Germany and then it's not that far to France and England. We cross oceans faster today than back in 1940.

The USA and Europe are dependent on each other. So what happens there has a pronounced effect on what happens here.

Any country that uses force of arms to take over another independent country upsets the balance in the world and this type of action should not be allowed to occur.[/QUOTE]

Ussr is not trying to take over Europe.
And as you note this is happening in Europe, tell me what other European country has said it anticipates a border intrusion? This is on NATO soil, and NATO has not mobilized. Yes we are part of NATO, we don’t command it.

150000 Russians at Ukraine border. 1.5 MILLION Invaders AT OUR SOUTH BORDER! As part of NATO, how many NATO troops are in Texas right now? US being invaded, upsets world balance??

I will defend my home first, neighbor comes second.

[QUOTE=Moveon;582918]If you want to blame any deaths of US military people on anyone blame it on Bush as he is the one that sent them there in the first place. It's always harder to get out than get in. Biden did the right thing.

There were hundreds that had brain damage due to the explosions not 11. Show me your sources. What sanctions. Trump should have started a war over what Iran did. And the killing of the head of the Iranian Guard was justified as he was planning more terrorist attacks the day he died.

Trump signed the agreement and decided when we had to get out of Afghanistan long before Biden took office. So it was Trump's fault not Bidens.

[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/12/08/us-troops-wounded-iran-al-asad-attack-get-purple-hearts/6434992001/[/url]


"It took the Pentagon more than a month to acknowledge that more than 100 troops had suffered traumatic brain injuries, and that several of them had to be medically evacuated".[/QUOTE]

You first said “ hundreds” and now after one objection dropped to once “1” hundred. Hmmmm.......exaggerate much?

[QUOTE=Moveon;582919]It's a very short distance from Ukraine to Germany and then it's not that far to France and England. We cross oceans faster today than back in 1940.

The USA and Europe are dependent on each other. So what happens there has a pronounced effect on what happens here.

Any country that uses force of arms to take over another independent country upsets the balance in the world and this type of action should not be allowed to occur.[/QUOTE]

Yea, I was late attending that

[QUOTE=Moveon;582901]It was easy to see how crazy biased you are.[/QUOTE]

that's pretty rich coming from you buddy.

[QUOTE=Moveon;582918]If you want to blame any deaths of US military people on anyone blame it on Bush as he is the one that sent them there in the first place. It's always harder to get out than get in. Biden did the right thing.

There were hundreds that had brain damage due to the explosions not 11. Show me your sources. What sanctions. Trump should have started a war over what Iran did. And the killing of the head of the Iranian Guard was justified as he was planning more terrorist attacks the day he died.

Trump signed the agreement and decided when we had to get out of Afghanistan long before Biden took office. So it was Trump's fault not Bidens.

[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/12/08/us-troops-wounded-iran-al-asad-attack-get-purple-hearts/6434992001/[/url]


"It took the Pentagon more than a month to acknowledge that more than 100 troops had suffered traumatic brain injuries, and that several of them had to be medically evacuated".[/QUOTE]

If you want to blame Bush, then Blame Clinton for not taking out Bin Ladin when he had the chance. HE waited too long, just like all the Democrat PUSSIES.

[url]https://www.thedailybeast.com/cia-agents-reveal-how-bill-clinton-stopped-them-from-killing-osama-bin-laden-and-preventing-911[/url]

There is a lot of blame......geopolitical games are never won when we don't have a UNITED front. We have not been united on protecting American since WWII. PUSSIES on both sides have forgotten how to win wars.

We lost in Korea, we lost in Viet Nam, we lost in GW1, we lost in GWII we lost in Afghanistan.

KILL ever last one of them murderous sum bitches, until they don't want to wage war on AMERICA. Quite simple.

When was the last time an Imperialist Japanese soldier killed an American? When was the last time a SS Nazi soldier killed an American?

DESTROY the enemy. Period......eliminate their ability to wage war.

later,

Geo

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;582924]If you want to blame Bush, then Blame Clinton for not taking out Bin Ladin when he had the chance. HE waited too long, just like all the Democrat PUSSIES.

[url]https://www.thedailybeast.com/cia-agents-reveal-how-bill-clinton-stopped-them-from-killing-osama-bin-laden-and-preventing-911[/url]

There is a lot of blame......geopolitical games are never won when we don't have a UNITED front. We have not been united on protecting American since WWII. PUSSIES on both sides have forgotten how to win wars.

We lost in Korea, we lost in Viet Nam, we lost in GW1, we lost in GWII we lost in Afghanistan.

KILL ever last one of them murderous sum bitches, until they don't want to wage war on AMERICA. Quite simple.

When was the last time an Imperialist Japanese soldier killed an American? When was the last time a SS Nazi soldier killed an American?

DESTROY the enemy. Period......eliminate their ability to wage war.

later,

Geo[/QUOTE]

Bravo! Peace thru strength. 👍
If I was POTUS, Fort Hood’s III Corps would be “ conducting training “ on border security operations on our south border. Training would focus on “ how to detect and capture forces infiltrating friendly lines”. All intruders captured during the training exercise would be turned over to ICE for processing.

Some things you may not realize about Ukraine.

Ukraine is an important agricultural country and can meet the food needs of 600 million people.

🌐1st in Europe in terms of arable land area;
🌐3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume);
🌐1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil;
🌐2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports;
🌐3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world;
🌐4th largest producer of potatoes in the world;
🌐5th largest rye producer in the world;
🌐5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons);
🌐8th place in the world in wheat exports;
🌐9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs;
🌐16th place in the world in cheese exports.

It is the second-largest country by area in Europe by area and has a population of over 40 million - more than Poland.
Ukraine ranks:

🌐 1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores;
🌐2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves;
🌐2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world's reserves);
🌐2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons);
🌐2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves;
🌐3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters)
🌐4th in the world by the total value of natural resources;
🌐7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)

Ukraine is an important industrialized country and ranks

🌐1st in Europe in ammonia production;
Europe's 2nd’s and the world’s 4th largest natural gas pipeline system;
🌐3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants;
🌐3rd in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km);
🌐3rd in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment;
🌐3rd largest iron exporter in the world
🌐4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world;
🌐4th largest manufacturer of rocket launchers, in clay exports and in titanium exports
🌐8th in exports of ores and concentrates;
🌐9th in exports of defense industry products;
🌐10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons).

Ukraine matters.

That is why its independence is important to the rest of the world.

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;582928]Some things you may not realize about Ukraine.

Ukraine is an important agricultural country and can meet the food needs of 600 million people.

🌐1st in Europe in terms of arable land area;
🌐3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume);
🌐1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil;
🌐2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports;
🌐3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world;
🌐4th largest producer of potatoes in the world;
🌐5th largest rye producer in the world;
🌐5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons);
🌐8th place in the world in wheat exports;
🌐9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs;
🌐16th place in the world in cheese exports.

It is the second-largest country by area in Europe by area and has a population of over 40 million - more than Poland.
Ukraine ranks:

🌐 1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores;
🌐2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves;
🌐2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world's reserves);
🌐2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons);
🌐2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves;
🌐3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters)
🌐4th in the world by the total value of natural resources;
🌐7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)

Ukraine is an important industrialized country and ranks

🌐1st in Europe in ammonia production;
Europe's 2nd’s and the world’s 4th largest natural gas pipeline system;
🌐3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants;
🌐3rd in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km);
🌐3rd in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment;
🌐3rd largest iron exporter in the world
🌐4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world;
🌐4th largest manufacturer of rocket launchers, in clay exports and in titanium exports
🌐8th in exports of ores and concentrates;
🌐9th in exports of defense industry products;
🌐10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons).

Ukraine matters.

That is why its independence is important to the rest of the world.[/QUOTE]

Great post! I ask, as even Russia participates in the world economy, and Russia needs economic sources, wouldn’t these resources still be available to the world even it a Russian flag flew over Ukraine?

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;582924]If you want to blame Bush, then Blame Clinton for not taking out Bin Ladin when he had the chance. HE waited too long, just like all the Democrat PUSSIES.

[url]https://www.thedailybeast.com/cia-agents-reveal-how-bill-clinton-stopped-them-from-killing-osama-bin-laden-and-preventing-911[/url]

There is a lot of blame......geopolitical games are never won when we don't have a UNITED front. We have not been united on protecting American since WWII. PUSSIES on both sides have forgotten how to win wars.

We lost in Korea, we lost in Viet Nam, we lost in GW1, we lost in GWII we lost in Afghanistan.

KILL ever last one of them murderous sum bitches, until they don't want to wage war on AMERICA. Quite simple.

When was the last time an Imperialist Japanese soldier killed an American? When was the last time a SS Nazi soldier killed an American?

DESTROY the enemy. Period......eliminate their ability to wage war.

later,

Geo[/QUOTE]

You really talk a big show but can't back up a **** thing you believe. There were Japanese soldiers still fighting in the jungles after WWII for years. And we didn't wipe out all the Germans or Japanese. We are not like that. Eisenhower was not a bloody butcher.

We did not lose the Gulf War. We stopped occupying Iraq. It was never our intention to take over Iraq. We went in there to stop Saddam from invading other countries in the middle east. Especially Saudi Arabia. Saddam was poised to invade Saudi Arabia when we went into stop him. That was GW1. We went into Afghanistan to get Bin Ladin. And it was President Obama that had the GUTS to get Bin Ladin and kill his ass. Many other great military leaders have tried to conquer Afghanistan and failed. Alexander the Great tried and failed to hold Afghanistan.

[QUOTE=ZoraSpook;582929]Great post! I ask, as even Russia participates in the world economy, and Russia needs economic sources, wouldn’t these resources still be available to the world even it a Russian flag flew over Ukraine?[/QUOTE]

Trade with Russia will be cut off if they invade Ukraine.

[QUOTE=Moveon;582932]Trade with Russia will be cut off if they invade Ukraine.[/QUOTE]

Off all that exist, some will some not

[QUOTE=ZoraSpook;582920]Ussr is not trying to take over Europe.
And as you note this is happening in Europe, tell me what other European country has said it anticipates a border intrusion? This is on NATO soil, and NATO has not mobilized. Yes we are part of NATO, we don’t command it.

150000 Russians at Ukraine border. 1.5 MILLION Invaders AT OUR SOUTH BORDER! As part of NATO, how many NATO troops are in Texas right now? US being invaded, upsets world balance??

I will defend my home first, neighbor comes second.[/QUOTE]

1. I'm against illegal immigration.
2. I really hope we're smart enough to distinguish between a military invasion and people sneaking into the country to get jobs.