Unemployment has doubled since the Dems took over

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;384209]Had you took the time before POSTING, this would not had been even an issue........but you didn't.

SO, if "Many" sites disagree with my assessment...........please, BY ALL MEANS.......post links to those.

Later,

Geo[/QUOTE]

Well that will happen when trying to post between commercials while watching football.

i jumped the gun with my post just like you did with your first reply.

I never said many sites disagreed with you assessment and as a matter of fact your first hand experience would have been a welcome learning tool but you post/replies came off as smug and had the I'm superior tone to them.

Maybe you should post some links that back up your assessments of the visa workers.

Anyway, what I was saying was that they don't just give these visas to just anyone you have to have a bachelor’s degree or its equivalent as a minmum and state licensure, if required to practice in that field.

This part is not directed directly at you Geo, so don't think it is. Just some random stuff.

This isn't just some new Obama idea either. They have been issuing theses visas for a while now.

The current law limits to 65,000 (but can be raised) the number of aliens who may be issued a visa or otherwise provided H-1B status. The numerical limitation was temporarily raised to 195,000 in FY2001, FY2002 and FY2003 due to the high demand that coincided with the dot-com bubble.

I still can not find any solid info for the 165,000 visas being issued by Obama that kyfanatic used.

[QUOTE=Tim_T;384259]Actually all three require training.

Btw, are you insuating that the C-J is not running PAID ADS because they are downsizing the paper?[/QUOTE]
No, I was referring about the size of the paper overall. I bought a Lexington Herald today and they combined the city and region with the front page part. I think I just spent my last 75 cents on that thing.

This is from the Washington Post

Posted : April 3, 2009 1:26 PM

Well, the last time I checked, Obama and the Democratic Congress *could* do something about our outrageous unemployment numbers but have chosen not to. Look, outsourcing is accelerating, the rate has doubled since January. Obama just approved 165,000 new H1-B visas (March 31) and that certainly means that 165,000 American technology sector workers will join the better than 4.5 million American's loosing their job as a direct consequence of this program compatriots in the unemployment line! Microsoft, IBM, Boeing, HP, Dell, Apple, every major hi-tech corporation, has made recent announcements of American worker layoffs and operations moved to India. Congress could easily pass a series of special punitive taxes on these corporate Benedict Arnold's and reverse this nonsense. If you hit their Indian call centers with a $10 fee for every U.S. customer service call those jobs would move back PDQ. If you hit every H1-B visa with a $100,000 annual fee, the proceeds used to offset the damage done by displacing U.S. workers, open those companies up to lawsuits and fines if they do not hire a qualified U.S. citizen for those jobs, and establishing a pool to educate U.S. citizens to do those those jobs, otherwise. In other words, put the lie to Bill Gates and that smarmy ratbag at IBM and make them pay for their treason. Congress could, without impacting their lunatic free trade policies, do exactly what other countries are doing right now and cut unemployment by 50% or more. They wont, they get too much money from those companies, and horrors like that occurring in Binghamton today will become a common occurrence as people's fury boils over. This is, like it or not, Obama's fault.

[QUOTE=RICHYD4U;384211]And what's wrong with being a nurse?

-Rich RN[/QUOTE]

Nothing, the way I fish, I end up visiting them all the time. It's just I don't think anybody would want to come in the E-ward on a gurney and look up and have me be the first person they saw. Besides, I pick my nose.

[QUOTE=kyfanatic;384053]Yes,and the half working are Republicans too.Last time I checked most Dems stand around waiting for their Govt Check.[/QUOTE]

I'm glad I'm not a dem or a republican. I'm a political atheist. That way I get to poke fun at both sides, choose only the proven winners, and jeer the losers after the fact.

As far as I'm concerned, the only folks who ought run this country wear [B][I][U]Colts[/U][/I][/B] uniforms!

Manning for President!

Freeney for Secretary of Defense!

Reggie Wayne for Director of the IRS.....he's a great reciever!

[QUOTE=kyfanatic;384299]This is from the Washington Post

Posted : April 3, 2009 1:26 PM

Well, the last time I checked, Obama and the Democratic Congress *could* do something about our outrageous unemployment numbers but have chosen not to. Look, outsourcing is accelerating, the rate has doubled since January. Obama just approved 165,000 new H1-B visas (March 31) and that certainly means that 165,000 American technology sector workers will join the better than 4.5 million American's loosing their job as a direct consequence of this program compatriots in the unemployment line! Microsoft, IBM, Boeing, HP, Dell, Apple, every major hi-tech corporation, has made recent announcements of American worker layoffs and operations moved to India. Congress could easily pass a series of special punitive taxes on these corporate Benedict Arnold's and reverse this nonsense. If you hit their Indian call centers with a $10 fee for every U.S. customer service call those jobs would move back PDQ. If you hit every H1-B visa with a $100,000 annual fee, the proceeds used to offset the damage done by displacing U.S. workers, open those companies up to lawsuits and fines if they do not hire a qualified U.S. citizen for those jobs, and establishing a pool to educate U.S. citizens to do those those jobs, otherwise. In other words, put the lie to Bill Gates and that smarmy ratbag at IBM and make them pay for their treason. Congress could, without impacting their lunatic free trade policies, do exactly what other countries are doing right now and cut unemployment by 50% or more. They wont, they get too much money from those companies, and horrors like that occurring in Binghamton today will become a common occurrence as people's fury boils over. This is, like it or not, Obama's fault.[/QUOTE]

That's a post from a guy in the comment section of a story in The Washington Post you linked to eariler. It could all be true but I couldn't find anything to prove it was and good luck to you in your search.

I did find some other stuff you might find interesting while looking that says Obama has the exact opposite stance on outsourcing and the visas that you believe he has.

[url]http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/mar2009/gb2009033_652807.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index+-+temp_global+business[/url]

[QUOTE=pontooner;384342]That's a post from a guy in the comment section of a story in The Washington Post you linked to eariler. It could all be true but I couldn't find anything to prove it was and good luck to you in your search.

I did find some other stuff you might find interesting while looking that says Obama has the exact opposite stance on outsourcing and the visas that you believe he has.

[url]http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/mar2009/gb2009033_652807.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index+-+temp_global+business[/url][/QUOTE]

Guess I'll find out directly from the horses mouth (or at least a flunky that works for him).I sent quite a few emails yesterday to Obama,Nancy (Uhggg) Pelosi,every Kentucky Senator and Representative,and the House and Senate Committee on Labor and Education.

[QUOTE=slippedcork;384289]No, I was referring about the size of the paper overall. I bought a Lexington Herald today and they combined the city and region with the front page part. I think I just spent my last 75 cents on that thing.[/QUOTE]

That is because in this economy, nobody is buying ads. Advertising drive the print and television media.

When did the economy go bad again?

[QUOTE=Tim_T;384424]That is because in this economy, nobody is buying ads. Advertising drive the print and television media.

When did the economy go bad again?[/QUOTE]

I don't think it's due to the economy. I think it's due to technology. I don't understand why anyone even reads the paper anymore since you can get current news from many sources on demand on the web (computer or smartphone). Why would an advertiser spend money on something that is dying out?

It would be like advertising on the side of a horse and buggy in the 1950s.

I purchased my last newspaper about 8 years ago at least.

[QUOTE=know1;384476]I don't think it's due to the economy. I think it's due to technology. I don't understand why anyone even reads the paper anymore since you can get current news from many sources on demand on the web (computer or smartphone). Why would an advertiser spend money on something that is dying out?

It would be like advertising on the side of a horse and buggy in the 1950s.

I purchased my last newspaper about 8 years ago at least.[/QUOTE]

Trust me the print media is going nowhere. Even the papers have web sites and they still have advertisers. Plus, a lot of magazines and newspapers put certaint extras on the web site but leave out valuable content. I am a magzine writer and I can tell you that the economy has hurt because when companies cut their budgets, advertising is one of the first things to get cut. I know of a couple of magazines that went out of business because of the lack of advertising dollars.

[QUOTE=Tim_T;384491]Trust me the print media is going nowhere. Even the papers have web sites and they still have advertisers. Plus, a lot of magazines and newspapers put certaint extras on the web site but leave out valuable content. I am a magzine writer and I can tell you that the economy has hurt because when companies cut their budgets, advertising is one of the first things to get cut. I know of a couple of magazines that went out of business because of the lack of advertising dollars.[/QUOTE]

I work for a marketing agency and, while our revenue from clients has been off this year, the type of work we're doing has really shifted away from print and to digital - web, email, etc.. We went from constantly having multiple jobs at our printer to basically only having a print job every few weeks or so.

I still think it has more to do with technology than the economy, but you're correct in that advertising dollars are not as available right now.

[QUOTE=know1;384240]With the advances in technology, transportation, education, etc., we have to face the fact we live in a global economy and right now most of the rest of the globe (other than Europe) is willing to do a lot more work for less money.

Things are way out of balance - Costs of doing business in the USA are disproportionately high - and our government is not going to be the one to stop the loss of jobs (the government is worthless anyway).

Americans need to re-find their work ethic and focus on ways they can be necessary and relevant and economical in a global economy.[/QUOTE]

Free trade is not FAIR TRADE......

You're right we live in a global economy, but when you can outsource to a country like Mexico or China that does not have:

* 30% corporate taxes
* Labor Laws
* Environmental Laws
* Osha Safety Laws
* etc, etc

YOU will ALWAYS outcompete the US workforce.

Do you think China or Mexico taxes their companies by 30%.......answer HELL NO.

Do you think China or Mexico gives a RIP about the environment.......answer HELL NO.

Do you think China or Mexico gives a RIP about their workers.......answer HELL NO.

Do you think China or Mexico has OSHA type workplace safety laws.......answer HELL NO.....

So, in this wonderful GLOBAL economy.......WE get SCREWED because NO ONE else around the world plays by our SELF IMPOSED RULES........

Fun, eh......

One day while we're picking tomatoes, and yelling at our BOSS in Mandarin, we will wonder WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED..........

Later,

Geo