[QUOTE=KR;426132]So am I a dull knife Chub?[/QUOTE]
I re-read your posts, my answer to your question thus far is; "Not that I can tell."
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[QUOTE=KR;426132]So am I a dull knife Chub?[/QUOTE]
I re-read your posts, my answer to your question thus far is; "Not that I can tell."
[QUOTE=Chubminnow;426104]My answer to your question is as follows:
If you launch out of Grider Hill on any given Friday, Saturday or Sunday you shouldn't have any problems finding takers on the fish you catch. I'll give you an exact slip number to deliver the fish to if you'd like.[/QUOTE]
DEAL! Email it to [email][email protected][/email]
I mainly night fish. So 2 am is okay right? :)
Serious, if you are there 24X7, and I hook some up, they are your my friend, problem solved. PS You want me to call before I make the visit? Phone?
I will be there 24/7 starting Monday through Friday of this coming week. i will gladly take your unwanteds. I would hate to see you get in trouble...[QUOTE=HURRICANEBOB;426156]DEAL! Email it to [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
I mainly night fish. So 2 am is okay right? :)
Serious, if you are there 24X7, and I hook some up, they are your my friend, problem solved. PS You want me to call before I make the visit? Phone?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lt.Fuzz;426160] I would hate to see you get in trouble...[/QUOTE]
Get in trouble??????
When did I ever get out of trouble to have the chance to attempt re-entry? :)
PS: is that First of Second LT?
[QUOTE=apb;426135]Actually, it would not help out Cumberland. Probably have the reverse affect. Stripers diet is 99.99999% shad and alewifes. They use portions of the lake not used by other species (bass, bluegill, crappie, etc.). Alewifes and shad spend a lot of their lives over open water, so cannot be used by many other species for large portions of the year. If you let alewifes and shad take over the lake they'll compete directly with the fry of bass, bluegill and other species. Stripers keep the alewife/shad populations down and also limit the size of gizzard shad (they get over 18 inches).
KR, the lake levels is an Army Corp deal. Fish and wildlife have no control over that. They have been working with the bass at Cumberland (and other lakes). For example, the smallmouth limits were increased several years back and has improved the smallie sizes in the lake. I think you'll find that different species on different lakes will get different amounts of fish and wildlife time/funding. Musky are the big thing at Cave Run, Striper at Cumberland, Smallmouth at Dale Hollow, for example. There is only so much time/money that they have, so they cannot manage all fish at all lakes the same.
Andrew[/QUOTE]
We will never know but I tend to disagree. If there where no stripers to compete with the bass for the shad population think of the numbers and size of the spotted bass, and smallmouth. Good case in point Dale hollow, more ,and some of the biggest ky bass around period. How many small mouth are they stocking in Dale Hollow? NONE They don't have too the population has less competition for forage mainly shad and alewives . Heck one lake even closer. Laurel lake. Size and numbers UNREAL for a lake of that size. What is different from those lakes and cumberland STRIPERS Seems that only lake cumberland is suffering and everyone blames it on the ****. It was getting bad before the draw down. Trust me I have fished cumberland for 30 years. As for letting shad and alewives take over the lake the bass population will control that if it is available. I E DALE HOLLOW
Shad and alewifes both spend a good deal of their lives well away from shore, out over open water. Not many bass to feed on them out there. I have only been fishing the lake for 15 years. The stories that I hear are that the bass and striper fishing were both better in the 80's. The last state record striper was caught out of there in 85. If the 80's were the best time for stripers, and the bass fishing was also good, then the decline in bass fishing over the last few years is not the result of the stripers. If the bass decline is a direct result of the stripers, then the bass fishing in Cumberland would have been at its best in the early 90's when the striper fishing was way down. Note that striper fishing, at least for me, has not been real good the last few years.
There are many other factors that come into play for both species. As someone else mentioned, large influxes of water early spring when bass are spawning plays a role in the bass spawn, and subsequently, the bass fishing 5-6 years down the road when that year class starts hitting keeper size. As these upland lakes get older, you get less timber and other structure. That has an affect on the bass, crappie, and bluegill populations. Also add to that the increase in the numbers of people fishing the lake. It seems that stripers become the scapegoat anytime bass fishing is down. Plenty of other factors need to be considered. I know on Norris Lake a number of years back a number of the local bass clubs filed suit to get the stocking of stripers on Norris stopped as they felt the stripers were to blame for the decline in bass (e.g., the stripers were eating the bass). A study done by Mississippi State University found no evidence that the stripers were eating bass. Cut open over 1000 stripers to check stomach contents and found none with bass in them. There were a couple of crappie, 6 bluegill (3 with holes in the nose indicating they were used as bait). Everything else was shad. Bass, in contrast, were eating other bass. Spots averaged something like 17 percent of their was bass. Smallies were around 3 percent, and LM were somewhere between.
For most of the year, stripers do not use the same parts of the lake as bass, so they really do not compete with bass.
Andrew
Andrew I wish you luck, these guy's do not listen to proven facts and hundreds of studies on this subject. They just blame their poor fishing skills on the Striper.
A while back I asked Andrew (apb) a question and he gave me a full page detailed reply. I commented to him, "you're like a scientist" and he replied, "I am a scientist" and thus his scientific approach to fishing is evident.
600 dead stripers dip up on Thursday. By kdfw will be many more I'm next few weeks. They need to close striper fishing till better conditions, cumberland is in bad shape all numbers of game fish are way down
GEE Pro V LE could you please take me and show me how to catch them since my fish catching skills are so bad. You are a jerk my friend, and absolute JERK!!!! JByrd made an awesome point from the viewpoint of Dale Hollow and Laurel.
peter it better happen soon....been out there the last three morings in a row, the best o2 levels the biologist could find this morning from rowena to the dam was 1.2 ppm. i hope its not too late.:mad:p.s the skiiers and tubers have a lovely aroma to enjoy this weekend , it smells like a dump
Was that at any level or just below 25 feet?