What do you carry on your boat for Protection.....

Don that is great advice. I should have said something about that.

That was quick thinking to reach inside the rod locker. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have been so quick on my feet.

I'm kind of with HurricaneBob on this one. I'd favor having some kind of non-lethal self defense on me rather than a gun.

I don't want anyone stealing my stuff anymore than the next person, but I don't think I would feel very good about shooting someone over it. After all, the penalty for theft in this country isn't death.

Read walkeraviator's post....then read it again. Spot on, IMO. Those were all things taught to me by my CCDW instructor in the class I took. Excellent points.

Let me also say that while there is no duty to retreat in KY, I believe in the rationale that it's a responsible thing to do if you can....before it comes to that last resort....which is "kill or be killed." If you can run, run. If you can't, shoot. Carry a gun to protect your life, not your stuff.

I will also echo Don's point about telling LEOs that you have a CCDW permit. I've had the same experience, and all have seemed appreciative that I told them. When you look at statistics and what we have to go through to get a CCDW permit with classes and criminal records checks, I feel that we aren't the people LEOs are worried about having guns. I'm pretty sure it got me out a traffic ticket one time last year for running a red light early one morning that was stuck on red. The LEO was a real prick to me, until I told him that I was a CCDW permit holder....he turned into my best buddy after that and told me to head on down the road. LOL

I'm not concerned about the government knowing that I have a gun or two and a CCDW permit, because I do not believe that there will be a point in my lifetime where the government of this country will attempt to come take American's guns away. I just don't. Best guess is that there are 350 million guns in this country, which averages out to about 1 gun per man, woman, and child. Gun laws will come and go. The most aggressive ones will be in the big cities, like they are now. Even Obamy aint dumb enough to attempt the trick of taking all of our guns away. Aint gonna happen.

Warning shots, as mentioned above, I am firmly against. For a number of reasons, I would never let someone know that I had a weapon unless I had already made the decision that my life was imminently in danger and I was justified in killing them to protect it.

Read this guys article that I stumbled across awhile back. I think he makes some logical points about self defense....he also goes into a lot of home defense talk. Interesting read. [URL]http://www.chuckhawks.com/self_defense.htm[/URL]

-- 7" fillet knife in sheathe wired to my dashboard for easy withdraw.

-- Cell phone with 911 dialed and thumb on send button (in or out of pocket as situation requires). I figure it is as good as having a police radio. The communication from 911 to police in the field is quick (Urban and sub-urban fishing) and the response can be fast. I have used this several times chasing criminals on foot in Smoketown in Louisville and haven't been shot yet. I haven't had any problems at remote boat ramps (and I know that can get scary) but forcefully yelling obscenities and running toward the criminals with my cell phone has worked for me in urban settings. They usually run and what are they gonna do turn around and shoot you like the wild wild west. Think about the access to the boat ramps. How they gonna get away if you have communicated with 911. Often the road to the ramp is small and a mile or two long or longer, then it connects to a county, state or small federal hwy with typically few people on it especially at night. They can only go one of two ways once they get off the boat ramp road. They are trapped and may become worried if they know you are talking to 911. You have communicated a description of the guys (excuse me guys/girls) and vehicle. Seems like between local, county and state police they have a good chance of getting stopped on those country roads that are few and far between. Or at lease you can attempt to create that perception. Once they here you loudly talking to 911 I doubt they are going to keep breaking into your truck or think of shooting you or beating you up before they get out of Dodge. Hopefully they are thinking, OK I might get arrested for breaking into a truck do I want to up the ante to maybe get nabbed for assault, assault with a deadly weapon or attempted murder, armed robbery or all the above. Now it is a fact that not all criminals and thugs are this rational, especially the ones on meth and the like. So in the rare instance where they do want to beat you up you want to be confident that your running/swimming speed is up to par and feel smug in knowing that the police are coming down down that dead end road to the ramp. You also always want to have on a pair of shoes conducive to running. You won't get far with flip flops.

After writing this I recognize the need put 911 on speed dial and keep my phone in my pocket at all times while at the ramp.

Back to the knife--
I had to drawl the fillet knife one night. My son and I were camping in the boat on the Ohio River on the outskirts of some small industrial town up across from west virginia with the bow of the boat tied to a tree on the bank. It was a remote area and dark. We heard some sounds in the dense brush like someone coming down the bank toward the boat. As the sound got closer I grabbed the knife and lunged to the bow of the boat. Perched on the front of the boat like a police K-9 dog in attach mode my son worriedly asked, "Dad, what are gonna to do" I said, "If I hear anything else, I'm going to cut that bow rope, put it in reverse and get the H out of here."

I didn't have to mutilate the bow line that night and we stayed put.

I've never put a firearm on my boat, and there are at least three people alive on lake Cumberland today because of it.............

Taraus Judge you can shoot 410 shot gun shells or 45 colt.

i carry a hang gun in boat and truck loaded and ready to fire and i dont have a ccdw, i have been checked a few times on the boat and that is the first thing i tell them that i have a loaded hand gun on the boat and were it is. i have never had a problem with them one guy did get in my boat and held on to it while he checked me out. the main thing is to let them know you have it and tell them its for protection only

[QUOTE=know1;432052]. After all, the penalty for theft in this country isn't death.[/QUOTE]
it dang well should be

[QUOTE=Embrey;432225]it dang well should be[/QUOTE]

I don't believe so, but even if I did, there should be a trial.

Don't carry a gun on my boat or anywhere else. Guess I could try to pinch an attacker with my long nose pliers, or threaten to cut his nails with my line clippers if it got down to it. Seriously, I've used all kinds of ramps at all times of the day and night, and never had a problem.

Did casually tell a couple of young men I just got out of Eddyville one morning about 3:30 am at the Walnut Creek ramp on Barren. They moved on along so fast I couldn't tell if they were up to no good or not.

I got a 9mm by my bed (in case the wife tries to take advantage of me) and that's it.

40 Glock at home and a 9mm semi-auto cheap knockoff in boat. Hope I never have to use either one. But I guess if they can drag my ass off to shoot people I don't know who ain't messing with me I can **** sure shoot at somebody who is. right to carry is bullchit

Peter, this is good advice if:
A: You trusted your life to the police, which I do not. I trust my life to me.
B: You have had military knife training and feel confident you can use a knife to do someone bodily harm to keep them from harming you. I do have military training and I do feel that I could protect myself with a knife unless of course the other person has a gun, in that case I'd be glad I carried a gun. I keep a good sharp knife in a clip on my left side, just in case I run out of bullets.
C: You trusted that your cell phone would work in all situations and it comes with a force field to protect you from bullets, rocks, ball bats, ect. I sometimes cannot get service on the crapper and I'm sure not going to run at anybody holding my cell phone up screaming "I called 911! I called 911!" Why would anyone do that? What happens if it was that one guy that just didn't care, he laughs pulls his gat and the last thing you see is fire out of the barrel? Sorry, I like my life more than that.

I could go on but I hope you get the point. Don't trust your life to pipe dreams.

I've felt that I needed a gun exactly twice in my life and both were before the days of legal conceal and carry. One situation was ended with the judicious use of a mini aluminum baseball bat and in the other I had to show the pistol in my glove box before the guys knew I meant business. In neither of these situations would I have felt safe with a fillet knife or cell phone and I can almost bet that the guy on the other end of the bat wished I had had a pistol to point at him.

I often carry openly when I am fishing. There is nothing against the law about it and the most that will happen is the cop will run your SS# and tell you to have a nice day. I often fish from the bank on the Kentucky river. I notice people eyeing the pistol and there isn't nearly the amount of bs going on. I think the drunks just assume I'm a cop and they move on. I had a local cop come down one day where we were fishing. He asked how we were doing then asked if my pistol was loaded. I told him that it was and if there was a problem. He said no then we started bs'ing about holsters and where we go to shoot.

Geo- Invest in a small frame 9mm or 40, shoot it ALOT and get a comfortable holster. Get your CCDW. I carry a Kel Tec P11 most of the time concealed. I know people bad mouth them but mine has never had a jam and it is parkerized so no worry about rust. When I'm fishing I usually carry a Smith 40 or Ruger 45. They are both big but since I open carry they are more visible.