Gas prices

[QUOTE=waterdog101;481656]any and all oil drilled, here and elsewhere will be sold on the world market. having the supply of oil isn't the problem. they have the oil, they say they can't refine enough to keep up with the demand for the finished product. how many oil refineries would 4 TRILLION DOLLARS build. and built here in the USA. would gas not be cheaper at the pump. I think 4 TRILLION would build enough refineries to keep up with demand and lower our gas prices. but this won't be happening, our 4 TRILLION was wasted. The tally for post-9/11 military costs is staggering. More than 8,300 American service members or contractors dead in Iraq and Afghanistan. Nearly 200,000 civilians killed in those two wars. An estimated final financial cost of up to $4 trillion. And the only ?benefits? of these human and monetary outlays, according to the Brown researches, are ?democracy? and ?greater rights for women.?[/QUOTE]


Actually our refining capacity is more than adequate at this time. So much so that gasoline and other refined products are now The US's largest export to other countries.

I think that much of this improvement in refining capacity was built during the G.W. administration ( I will give him credit for helping with this). However, increased refining has not lowered gas prices. Big oil is just exporting what they can't sell here. I don't think even G.W. saw this happening. So now big oil wants to drill our natural resoures with the promiss of cheap gas. Nothing stopping them from sending it to China, Mexico. I don't think I trust them with a blank check.

The 4 trillion bailout funds? That's another question. Everyone is so upset that the US auto makers (some even more so than the banks getting funds) got some of this money from the Obama administration. Yet they are employing people with good wages here in the US. The banking industry has not done much with their bailout funds other than to pay top brass and hoard the funds.

Yea, much of the 4 trillion was misused/wasted. We could have built a lot of rail lines, wind energy and solar energy farms, installed polution controls on coal fired power plants and on and on.

[QUOTE=waterdog101;481656]any and all oil drilled, here and elsewhere will be sold on the world market. having the supply of oil isn't the problem. they have the oil, they say they can't refine enough to keep up with the demand for the finished product. how many oil refineries would 4 TRILLION DOLLARS build. and built here in the USA. would gas not be cheaper at the pump. I think 4 TRILLION would build enough refineries to keep up with demand and lower our gas prices. but this won't be happening, our 4 TRILLION was wasted. The tally for post-9/11 military costs is staggering. More than 8,300 American service members or contractors dead in Iraq and Afghanistan. Nearly 200,000 civilians killed in those two wars. An estimated final financial cost of up to $4 trillion. And the only “benefits” of these human and monetary outlays, according to the Brown researches, are “democracy” and “greater rights for women.”[/QUOTE]

Every time you WHINE and BITCH about the money spent in IRAQ and Afghanistan, you start to lose the argument.

I AGREE.......we need more refineries.
I AGREE........we spent a crapload of money in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I AGREE.........we should be winding those down..........

Bringing it up in EVERY ARGUMENT you have is getting old.

Try something else.

Later,

Geo

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;481662]Every time you WHINE and BITCH about the money spent in IRAQ and Afghanistan, you start to lose the argument.

I AGREE.......we need more refineries.
I AGREE........we spent a crapload of money in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I AGREE.........we should be winding those down..........

Bringing it up in EVERY ARGUMENT you have is getting old.

Try something else.

Later,

Geo[/QUOTE]

Geo, I agree with 2 and 3, but more refineries have not lowered fuel prices. Fuel is our No. 1 export now, surpassing food. We are selling refined products overseas.

Consider that if we drill baby drill that our oil will end up in Mexico, Japan, Korea, China (just like increased refined products). Gas stay's ^, we depleat our resourse, Big oil profits ^, you and I get laid off to a sweat shop in India.

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;481662]Every time you WHINE and BITCH about the money spent in IRAQ and Afghanistan, you start to lose the argument.

I AGREE.......we need more refineries.
I AGREE........we spent a crapload of money in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I AGREE.........we should be winding those down..........

Bringing it up in EVERY ARGUMENT you have is getting old.

Try something else.

Later,

Geo[/QUOTE] does a crapload = 4 trillion dollars.