Health Care Bill is Passed

Last I heard of the Bill, the cap on Health Insurance Policies is going to be 6% of your salary. So again, if you make money, you are going to pay more for your policy than someone that makes less. Plus you are going to be hit up for more taxes to pay for the bill. It most definately stinks for the guy who makes good money. No doubt about that. Gas isn't getting any cheaper either.

One scenario here is, and I'm not saying this IS going to happen, but company's may be forced to back down the salaries of middle class workers and lower wage workers, you can only back down the lower end to minimum wage, but it could happen. Forcing lower income to jump on Medicaid and if that happens, that particular company will be faced with fines. The Bill forces companies to offer health insurance in that manner.

I also see quite a few insurance companies closing their doors. Some probably won't be able to compete with the bigger ones like Humana, Aetna, or Metlife. An Insurance war is definately coming, fighting for business with the best rates.

Looks pretty gloomy for us in the near future, but Obama did say after he got elected, it was going to get worse before it gets better. I knew then we were in trouble.

While I do agree with this particular bill being passed, that's just because I benefit from it. I would not like it if I was in the Middle Income Class. As far as Obama getting re-elected. FAT CHANCE. This is too bold of a move from a first termer in office. It would be hard for EVEN a second termer to pull off. I think there are A LOT of changes to come in the future and it will be in reform for years.



[QUOTE=know1;406979]I have health insurance through work, but it is cheaper for us to buy my wife's policy on our own since her work doesn't provide it.

I have heard that the cost of her policy will eventually be raised because of this. Don't know if it's true or not, but it seems typical that the people who are handling things on their own usually get punished to help assist those who are not.[/QUOTE]

WHAT I now know is that if this thing gets all the way through and into law is that my office will be OVERRAN with applications as this bill will expand medi cade an dthat is what I give out, it and KCHIP and food stamps. We will have more work but for the same pay, state employees have not had a raise, better than 1% for over 6 yrs now and now the gov just anounced that we are getting 0 nada nothing fo rthe next 3 yrs or so, no raise but they will be raising my health ins premiums and redoing our ins to a strict 80/20 co pay system. Yes I work for my ins and in order to keep it I have to give up things like a boat a new car etc, and if I get sick then I am out even more as our ins plans are not that good it is HUMANA, and since they rae the only choice KY give us we are stuck with it. This whole health care mess has torn this country apart and all this bickering etc has to stop and real discussions need to take place. I am so glad my elected officals do things without regard to how it affects the citizens.

i agree Bobby, bet you won't ever hear of all these congress people and senators accepting the same health care plan they are trying to get passed though for the rest of the Americans and illegals in this Country !!!!!!!:mad:

This was a political move by the Libs in Congress. I don't think it had the majority of the people in mind. We will see come November thats all we can do....vote em out!!!

[QUOTE=mhall;406963]Yea lets discuss the facts and quit Bible thumping. I'm very much a God fearing man but it's got a time and place. I also can't stand crusaders that go around trying to belittle people by quoting the Bible and making themeslves sound Holy as Thou because they know some scripture.

Take it down a notch Preacher Man, it's waaaay over the top.[/QUOTE]

Wow...sounds like bitterness to me.......Lack of "Bible Thumping" is what this countrys main problem is!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=psprowler;406871]What's wrong with a business owner that makes a decent living? If he/she wants to spend their money on Hummers and mansions......that's their right as long as they live within their means. Even if they don't it's still their right. Do they owe you something just because they worked hard to get to where they are at? Guess so.

You know you could start your own business and make a lot of money. Lots of colleges from what I understand are accepting new students everyday. What's stopping you?[/QUOTE]

I make a good living thanks anyway...There's not a thing wrong with making good money...The problem is the people making the good money are the ones doing all the crying!!!

[QUOTE=ukkid;407165]The problem is the people making the good money are the ones doing all the crying!!![/QUOTE]

I assume your definition of "good money" is anyone who makes more than you?

[QUOTE=Chubminnow;407173]I assume your definition of "good money" is anyone who makes more than you?[/QUOTE]


Chub-Maybe he will share some of his "good living' with us less fortunate!:D

What is funny is that we already have health ins for most of the people, if you have children and have no income, you can get a med card thru medicad, also if you have children and cannot afford ins or are not offered it the kids are covered with KCHIP, also you can get Ky phys care card for a year and go see a vol Dr for free. We have health care for the poor and children what we lack is afforable health care for the working and middle class who are just over the income limits for KCHIP and medicade. I do not belive that this bill will help US out like they envisioned it years ago. We all aggree to disagree and all of us want the same things in life, but it is getting hard for us middle class to make it . I cannot afford a boat at this time due to breaking up from my fiance of 9 yrs, said I fished too much, still drive a 1994 f150 4x4, cannot afford a new one.But I am blessed to even have a job that offers some security, unless they ship us to Mexico, our call center is in India, go figure, it is ironic that Iwork in a system that is supposed to help people without jobs amd then have them call India to activate their food stamp card. Prowler sorry I see what you are getting at, my mother wanted to die as the treatments seem worse than the diease. Tom sorry for you Bro I feel for you. Peace to all.

[QUOTE=ukkid;406824]Republicans are a joke...They don't care squat about the average middle class american. The only ones who will have to pay more taxes are the $200,000 earners.. I really feel sorry for em... It's about time the tables were turned on these snobs. O'bama is a sure two termer now and I and most I've talked to are very thankful to have someone in office who cares about the poor and working poor. You can see what Republicans are made of when they shout the N word and spit at people. Come November hopefully we can get rid of some more of these weirdos!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]

You're KIDDING, RIGHT.......I'm middle class and pay 10 CRAPLOADS of taxes already.

You're a FOOL if you don't think this will cost SIGNIFICANT dollars in the future. I already pay more than my share and will NEVER collect an equivalent amount in services. In 30 years of working, I've paid over 300,000k in taxes, and will pay at least that much in the future.....

I don't mind paying taxes, but when 47 million "poor" don't pay a single RED CENT, and then get a 2000 - 5000 dollar EARNED income credit, it makes me SICK. This proud country was not formed on the premise of being a freeloader.

I will tell you this..........CONTINUE taking my money, and I WILL FIGURE out a way to STOP paying my share............that might include QUITTING my job and living off the gubment I HATE so MUCH. Maybe I will let you pay for me for ONCE.

Later,

Geo

I've got the suspicion the slippedcork is posting again.:rolleyes:

ukkid, you are welcome to post your opinion here, but you need to do so in a respectful manner. If you cannot do that, you will not continue posting here.

Andrew