You need to go read the very first post in this thread again
[QUOTE=TimE;579824]So now that it is impossible to say that people not wearing mask is causing virus to rage?? Now you are going to blame not being worn properly?? Wow, you are a piece of work!! I don’t care if mask stop 100% of fluids carrying the virus, they are completely useless against the virus microns (actually smaller than microns by hundreds) spreading the virus. Stop denying science!!
Remember when you used to blame Trump for not telling everyone sooner? Were you talking about fluid spread or airborne transmission?[/QUOTE]
You don't need to tell me about how masks work or don't work. I know more about respirators than you ever will in your lifetime. I posted a link about masks from the CDC for people like you to read. Obviously, you never read it.
I see you took time off to make yourself look foolish one more time.
It's not always about you. It's about protecting others from guys like you. Maybe one day you will get it.
It's about virus density. There are more virus particles in a larger drop of fluid coming out of the mouth or nose than in a smaller drop of fluid. Aerosols are very small in the submicron size and stay airborne in still air for hours. But they carry a much smaller amount of virus particles. It's about infections and you need to take in a large enough virus load to overwhelm the body's defense before you can become infected. It's about probabilities in a way.
Larger particles don't float in the air very long and they fall down to the ground due to gravity. And if you wear a mask the larger droplets are prevented from passing through the mask material. Only a small fraction of the droplets or aerosols pass through the mask with enough force to go very far.
Without a mask on a cough can spew droplets and aerosols much further away than if the person is wearing a mask. That is why you must also practice social distancing while wearing a mask to reduce the risk of spreading the virus to others. That is why EVERY ONE Must wear a mask when inside with others where you can't social distance. Ventilation of the room also comes into play but that will be way over your head when we start talking about room air exchange rates of the ventilation system and the filter pore sizes of the ventilation filter system.
When we wear a multilayered cloth mask it's not to protect ourselves. No, it's to protect others. You seem to be focused on yourself. Typical of a Trump supporter. We are told to wear masks in order to protect others from our emission just in case we are infected and don't know it. Most infections these days are caused by asymptomatic super spreaders that fail to wear a mask. The person who wears a mask is not wearing the mask to protect themselves unless they are using an N95 mask which filters out 95% of particles down to 0.3 microns in size. We save those types of masks for the hospital workers. We should have forced the US companies to manufacture N95 type masks here in the USA so we would have enough of them for everyone to wear and replace often. But Trump didn't make that decision so we are forced to make do with paper masks and cloth masks instead. They only slow the spread to others if we keep a distance. You have to do all the protocols to stay safe. So mask work when they are worn properly and we keep a safe distance of at least 6 ft away from others and then wash our hands with soap and water for 20 seconds. The best masks we can use short of N95 are cotton material with a high thread count and triple layers. They slow the spread better than a simple cloth material with a low thread count. But even the latter is better than not wearing anything.
More information about masks.
[url]https://hartfordhealthcare.org/about-us/news-press/news-detail?articleid=27691&publicId=395[/url]
[url]https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02801-8[/url]
One thing to remember is that Trump could have authorized the War Powers Act and forced American Companies to make more N95 masks and then made masks mandatory for all of the USA. That would have helped slow the spread of the virus and saved thousands of lives. But he made fun of people that wore masks instead and now we have over 1/4 million dead. I think this is why Trump lost the election.
Stop spewing nonsense TimE
[QUOTE=TimE;579832]TLDR, more BS from a paid troll without facts on his side. The phrase referring to mask as “wear it for others” is as dumb and inconceivable as it can possibly get. That is why almost everyone stopped using it.
[B]It figures that you would say something like above. So you don't care about the safety of others if you are infected and don't know it? That's pretty selfish of you TimE. This is why the virus continues to spread because of people like you spreading doubt and then others read your BS and don't wear a mask when out and about. And when people fail to wear a mask you then go and say that masks don't work. You cause them to stop wearing a mask when you tell people that masks don't work. Who do you work for? Russia's Putin? Seriously you should be telling people to comply with the CDC guidelines that are 1: wear a mask 2: keep distance and 3: wash your hands often Sorry, but people like are just selfish and self-absorbed and don't really care about those around you.
[/B][URL="https://hartfordhealthcare.org/about-us/news-press/news-detail?articleid=27691&publicId=395"]Masks Save Lives: Duke Study Confirms Which Ones Work Best | Hartford HealthCare[/URL]
Anyone that actually believes that mask protect others but not the wearers have a serious intellect problem. Floating virus particles in a static state can penetrate a cloth mask. Right? Pressurized virus particles can’t escape a cloth mask. Right? Do you know how ignorant that sounds to anyone with a single firing synapse?
[B]I said that it reduced the number of virus particles going out of the mouth and nose when a mask is worn. And if we had enough N95 masks for everyone to wear all the time they were out and around other people the virus would be better controlled. There are different types of masks with N95 the gold standard. I posted some links to a discussion on various types of masks made with different materials. Go back and read them before you keep embarrassing yourself by showing your ignorance. I never said that it stopped all the virus particles. But a mask can stop 95% of the particles of 0.3 micron and larger. And a mask can slow the velocity of the droplets coming out of the mouth when one coughs or talks. That helps slow the spread when we wear a mask and stay 6 ft apart. And if an infected person does not wear a mask and coughs the droplets carrying large amounts of virus particles can go much further and infect may others around the infected person that coughs. Now if the same infected person wears a good mask then the number of virus particles is reduced considerably and the distance they travel is reduced thus protecting others around the person who coughed. [/B]
Mask mandates have done nothing but make positive cases explode! Sure maybe a few islands but they are outliers. It is devastatingly irresponsible to continue to spout BS about cloth masks when they are scientifically proven ineffective!! Sure they may limit your spray matter from a sneeze or cough but clearly that isn’t how this virus is spreading. “ A cloth mask may prevent you from sneezing into someone’s eyes” for example, that is only purpose served.
[B]Mask mandates do not cause positive cases to explode. . That is a ridiculous statement that is false. WEARING A MASK REDUCED THE SPREAD! Cloth masks made out of cotton that is tight weave and multilayers are good for stopping the virus from getting away when one coughs while wearing said mask. A good multilayers high thread count cotton mask reduced the spread of the virus when people talk or cough and reduced the distance that those particles that pass through the mask travel. Less virus gets out when we wear a mask than if we don't wear a mask. That is just easy to see and comprehend. Anyone that can't see that is not being truthful. Now if you are talking about a thin cloth mask made out of polyester with a low thread count then more virus particles may pass through that material. See the most recent post that I made and the links included in that last post for more information.
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They are absolutely useless in stopping the perfectly designed airborne virus though. If cloth masks are the answer, we are all in trouble. Another reason I can’t believe anyone would vote for china jo.
[B]Wrong. Nothing is absolute. And masks work better than not having a mask on the face. People that say that masks don't work or absolutely useless are useless people absolutely! Actually, the virus is not designed to be airborne. I don't know where you got that. Are you trying to say that the Chinese designed the virus to fly through the air? That is lunacy talking. What I can't believe is that 70 million people voted for Trump. I bet that most of those votes were rigged for Trump. The software must have changed all the votes for Biden to Trump somehow. Ask Rudi how that is done. ha ha We are already in trouble as Trump failed to control the virus and continues to play golf while the virus spreads to millions of more people who don't wear masks or social distance. The White House is a perfect example of how the virus spreads when people fail to wear masks and don't practice social distancing. That is why Trump's own son is now infected with the Covid-19. And more studies are showing that people don't fully recover from the virus even when they don't die. There are lingering effects to the heart, brain, and other organs when infected with the virus. People that are infected and asymptomatic and don't know that they have the virus infection can have long term problems. That is what I think may have happened to you TimE. I think that you have been infected and the virus could have damaged your brain. [/B] [Quote/]
