froze

[QUOTE=Buzzy;585212]because I was being realistic not a Lackass.[/QUOTE]

I understand. You have a hard time making demands on people.

We both left out atleast 12-15 fast growing leaf bearing trees so we can use the leaves as compost and grow our own fire wood and building lumber.

[QUOTE=ZoraSpook;585214]I understand. You have a hard time making demands on people.

We both left out atleast 12-15 fast growing leaf bearing trees so we can use the leaves as compost and grow our own fire wood and building lumber.[/QUOTE]

Are you a lady? Nothing wrong if you are just wondering.

[QUOTE=Buzzy;585200]Your first two sentences I disagree with, while I know there should be some kind of competition to drive innovation, real innovation comes when solving a problem. I think we have cereal figured out.

Everything else I agree with. The shear waste we produce just in single use plastics would be reduced by these simple concepts.

Now the garden and chicken idea isnt so extreme and would create another large cut in waste both in packaging for foods but also food waste. Everything you dont eat, compost it for your garden or feed it to the chickens. Then you look at the amount we would reduce in pollution from transport of the food and goods and waste.

But like it goes, if it makes sense, it wont happen.[/QUOTE]

there are lots of ideas but rarely do they get heard.........mostly due to politics. I'm becoming very jaded by both sides.

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;585219]there are lots of ideas but rarely do they get heard.........mostly due to politics. I'm becoming very jaded by both sides.[/QUOTE]


Ive been disheartened since "WMD's"

[QUOTE=Buzzy;585211]Those are medical.

Or give guys vasectomies free of charge. Eliminates a good amount of abortions, reduces waste from condoms and the can be reversed.

Everyone hates condoms anyways[/QUOTE]

Vasectomies are up over Abortions, from what I'm reading.

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;585221]Vasectomies are up over Abortions, from what I'm reading.[/QUOTE]

The best argument the pro life crowd could make is the free vasectomy argument. Women wouldn’t have the my body my choice argument anymore. There is a reasonable alternative provided.
so it would be a slam dunk.

abortions would still exist but at a greatly reduced amount

[QUOTE=Buzzy;585211]Those are medical.

Or give guys vasectomies free of charge. Eliminates a good amount of abortions, reduces waste from condoms and the can be reversed.

Everyone hates condoms anyways[/QUOTE]

Good plan. 😆 Ya know with all the transgender, gay, bi-sexual, and otherwise sexually confused people numbers growing, demand reasonably would be declining. Good news!!! Competition at the bar is easing up too.

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;585221]Vasectomies are up over Abortions, from what I'm reading.[/QUOTE]

Younger generation getting confused when their girlfriend shouts : “ Cut it out! “

[QUOTE=Buzzy;585222]The best argument the pro life crowd could make is the free vasectomy argument. [/QUOTE]

Would this work ti reduce gun shootings? Barrel vasectomies would allow the bang but no passage of bullets?

[QUOTE=Buzzy;585215]Are you a lady? Nothing wrong if you are just wondering.[/QUOTE]

Way a minute, I’ll check.

[QUOTE=Buzzy;585208]Its funny how you see the benefits but are to lazy to do the obviously good thing.

No wonder this world is going to ****. Even if its good for us no one will lift a finger other than to point out who they think is to blame.

But DevilHorse have you ever been to a buffet?[/QUOTE]

Come on Buzz. Your grandparent's grandparents said the world was going to shixt. People been saying that forever...yet here we are. I personally don't buy into the doom and gloom that is constantly peddled by the media, or one special interest or another. If the all the D and G predictions came true, the planet would be a complete wasteland by now, and we'd all be dead.

Yes, I've been to many buffets, and no, I'm not going bring my own containers to the market for raw food. I don't want to, and hope like heck I never have to. Lazy? I'll own it.

Your ideas about what is good for us may not be the best for us.

[QUOTE=Devils Horse;585233]Come on Buzz. Your grandparent's grandparents said the world was going to shixt. People been saying that forever...yet here we are. I personally don't buy into the doom and gloom that is constantly peddled by the media, or one special interest or another. If the all the D and G predictions came true, the planet would be a complete wasteland by now, and we'd all be dead.

Yes, I've been to many buffets, and no, I'm not going bring my own containers to the market for raw food. I don't want to, and hope like heck I never have to. Lazy? I'll own it.

Your ideas about what is good for us may not be the best for us.[/QUOTE]


The world has been going to **** for generations. Think how great our great great grandparents had it compared to us. Yes we have luxuries but they had a real life, not sitting in front of a TV or worried their boss was going to email them. They werent wrong you just accept the ever worsening conditions as normal progression without the willingness to stop or say anything.


Doom and Gloom? Thats all this society brings us. Because people accept its the only outcome.