War with Russia over Ukraine?

Will Putin invade Ukraine? What doese Putin really want with Ukraine? Oil pipe lines maybe? Is Putin testing his military and testing the new President? He may not like what he finds when Biden releases the US Military.

[QUOTE=Moveon;582321]Will Putin invade Ukraine? What doese Putin really want with Ukraine? Oil pipe lines maybe? Is Putin testing his military and testing the new President? He may not like what he finds when Biden releases the US Military.[/QUOTE]

Spoiler alert: Biden isn't going to release the U.S. military.

[QUOTE=jcb;582322]Spoiler alert: Biden isn't going to release the U.S. military.[/QUOTE]

you never know...he's batting a thousand on his or the deep state decisions so far.
and remember, most wars are started by dims or the deep state bushs.

Tell Putin we will give him Chicago and it’s Mayor if he leaves Ukraine alone.

[QUOTE=dragmerc;582326]you never know...he's batting a thousand on his or the deep state decisions so far.
and remember, most wars are started by dims or the deep state bushs.[/QUOTE]

What about Vietnam or Korea?

[QUOTE=Moveon;582344]What about Vietnam or Korea?[/QUOTE]

We should take them on as states and return New Jersey and California ;)

[QUOTE=Moveon;582344]What about Vietnam or Korea?[/QUOTE]

generals only know to fight.
Truman just finished a war.
and we may have to fight in korea againl
Eisenhower only sent trainers to vietnam.
Kennedy sent troops which was a colossal mistake.

[QUOTE=dragmerc;582350]generals only know to fight.
Truman just finished a war.
and we may have to fight in korea againl
Eisenhower only sent trainers to vietnam.
Kennedy sent troops which was a colossal mistake.[/QUOTE]

General Powel was a diplomate
You never know
Eisenhower got it all started. Colossal mistake. Should have left the country to the French.

I believe Russia wants Ukraine for the food supply, resources, and wealth.

They'll probably take it, and our government will make some noise and implement some token sanctions. Diplomacy. No possible way we get in a war, too much bad publicity, and too many votes to be lost for that.

[QUOTE=Devils Horse;582371]I believe Russia wants Ukraine for the food supply, resources, and wealth.

They'll probably take it, and our government will make some noise and implement some token sanctions. Diplomacy. No possible way we get in a war, too much bad publicity, and too many votes to be lost for that.[/QUOTE]

Ukraine is split east and west much like the US was (is?) split north and south. It's really two totally different countries.

One in 4 Ukrainians speak Russian and consider Russia their motherland. The other side hates Russia so much (with good reason, primarily Stalin's atrocities there) that when the Nazis invaded in WWII they considered them liberators.

[QUOTE=jcb;582374]Ukraine is split east and west much like the US was (is?) split north and south. It's really two totally different countries.

One in 4 Ukrainians speak Russian and consider Russia their motherland. The other side hates Russia so much (with good reason, primarily Stalin's atrocities there) that when the Nazis invaded in WWII they considered them liberators.[/QUOTE]

Hitler did the same thing. He annexed the Rhineland. Then went for Austria, It was not until he invaded Poland that the British and French declared War on Germany.

I'm sure that Putin remembers how Hitler acted and how the world stood by until it was almost too late.

Putin already started WWIII when he invaded Crimea and gained access to the Black Sea. He practically owns the Black Sea now.

You don't put over 175,000 Russian troops on the border with Ukraine unless you want to invade them.

Now Biden is too chicken to stop Putin. Putin is pushing it and we are backing down. We should not allow Putin to invade any other countries by force of arms. We should send military assistance to Ukraine now. Hell we should have done that back in 2014 when Putin invaded the peninsula on the Black Sea.

[QUOTE=Moveon;582357]General Powel was a diplomate
You never know
Eisenhower got it all started. Colossal mistake. Should have left the country to the French.[/QUOTE]

Powell was a "diplomat" whose lies to the UN about "irrefutable" evidence of WMDs in Iraq made the whole debacle possible.