When flipping in cover using heavy lines when is it best to use braid versus using fluorocarbon?
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When flipping in cover using heavy lines when is it best to use braid versus using fluorocarbon?
I am bye far no expert, but anytime I am fishing heavy cover, I have braid tied on. It just seems to do a better job of not breaking off, and getting the fish out of the cover, and if you get hung up with a fish on, you can reach down and get the fish, and not worry about breaking off fluoro. In my opinion I wouldnt use floro for flipping heavy cover, just seems like it would be to easy to break off, but like I said no expert here.
I use 50# braid for flipping and leave the fluro on my jig/palstics rods. Braid is just too strong for heavy flipping vs fluro
Use braid in grass and flouro for wood. Braid will cut into wood and get stuck when a fish is hooked. Flouro is abrasion resist. and will slip over it. The advantage of braid in grass is that it will cut through the grass. I use 20lb flouro for flippin wood & 50lb braid for grass. Spiderwire stealth is what works for me. When using braid remember to burn the tag end b/c most braids are coated with a wax that will cause the knot to slip under pressure.
I agree with drew..............
What kind of knot to use with the braid?
Bassky
I was just trying to get a consensus. I use 50# Cortland braid when flipping in grass, I use the Palomar knot and have never broken a Knot while flipping (using the Palomar). I wasn't sure about wood cover but that makes sense that fluorocarbon would slip past the wood better than braid. But what if your fishing a lake that has both wood and grass do you need two flippin' sticks?...can you get by with using braid around wood?
I have my best luck flippin with heavy mono/copolymer than anything else. Flouro is useless once it gets knicked. 25 pound flouro with the tiniest knick in it is just as weak as 4 pound mono. It will get knicked up often on/in heavy cover too. I tried Flouro for flipping for a while - it is stiff as can be, and needs to be re-tied way too often.
I also tried braid. I hate braid for all applications except for 2 months out of the year when I have a frog tied on and stay in the grass. You cannot break off if you need to - it seems to wrap around the brush way easier than any other line too.
Big mono helps me in several ways. Even when it gets knicked a little it will maintain most of it's strength. Still re-tie often, but have no fears on hooksets. I can see the smallest twitch in the line. And the bulk and bouyancy of it helps for a slower fall.
I switched to braid at the end of the year last year and thank goodness....it was a lot of the reason we won our club....had a hawg down in a tree that im sure would have broke me off with anything less than braid....for what my opinion is worth, if im not in extremely clear water i will have braid tied up for flipping
Braid is usually fine around bushes since the branches and twigs are thin. But when around a large piece of waterlogged wood, the braid will dig into it. I flip bushes/wood with 20lb P-line 100% flouro and I've broken 0 fish off using it. Of course braid is not going to dig into wood "every" time you hook a fish with braid on wood. But having that happen one time on a big fish can cause a lot of hearbreak that I'm not willing to chance when it can be avoided with flouro. Co-polymers are also fine for flippin wood.
A lot of people still use co-polymers when flippin wood b/c of the stretch. When your flippin, your usually close to the object your fishing so there is a lot of impact on the knot and line when you set the hook. Using a co-polymer that has a bit more stretch than flouro can take some of that impact away.
But, I've had great success with the P-Line flouro with flippin and I love the added sensitivity so I stay with it.
So, if I'm flippin both grass and wood, yes I'll have two flippin rods. 1 with braid and another with flouro.
[QUOTE=flippindrew;352433]Braid is usually fine around bushes since the branches and twigs are thin. But when around a large piece of waterlogged wood, the braid will dig into it. I flip bushes/wood with 20lb P-line 100% flouro and I've broken 0 fish off using it. Of course braid is not going to dig into wood "every" time you hook a fish with braid on wood. But having that happen one time on a big fish can cause a lot of hearbreak that I'm not willing to chance when it can be avoided with flouro. Co-polymers are also fine for flippin wood.
A lot of people still use co-polymers when flippin wood b/c of the stretch. When your flippin, your usually close to the object your fishing so there is a lot of impact on the knot and line when you set the hook. Using a co-polymer that has a bit more stretch than flouro can take some of that impact away.
But, I've had great success with the P-Line flouro with flippin and I love the added sensitivity so I stay with it.
So, if I'm flippin both grass and wood, yes I'll have two flippin rods. 1 with braid and another with flouro.[/QUOTE]
I agree, I also use 20lb P-line flourocarbon for flippin.
When you guys are flippin and pitchin with braid are you using straight braid or a leader?