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one of the all female jurors, in the Zimmerman trial is having trouble sleeping and eating for making the wrong decision in the Zimmerman murder trial. she said she owes Martens Mother apology. she said Zimmerman got away with Murder.
[URL]http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/07/25/juror-says-zimmerman-got-awa/2587533/[/URL]
Yeah I call bullcrap!!! Whose fault is it she didn't stick to her decision??? Somebody intimidate her? She speak and understand English???
I'll make a judgement call....she is an idiot. She had all the resources at her disposal during the trial and she made her decision. Imo..she is now listening to others and armchair QB opinions based on emotion not facts or law and she feels guilty for doing the right thing based upon the law. My gosh if a person was to watch the news now you would think Martin was a sweet little boy who just got shot by a big old mean man.
Bottom line Zimmerman killed a man who was more than likely gonna kill him or put him in extreme pain...possibly for life so he shot the young man to defend himself. He went to trial and was found innocent. This lady is trying to get something or some notoriety. I call bullcrap! Your not sleeping good huh?? I don't think you ever slept well with 8 kids!
I could have missed it, but I didn't see where she said anything about making the wrong decision.
[quote]The juror said the six-member, all-female jury followed Florida law and found the evidence did not warrant a murder conviction.[B] "You can't put the man in jail even though in our hearts we felt he was guilty,'' [/B]said [/quote]
[quote]"George Zimmerman got away with murder, but you can't get away from God. And at the end of the day, he's going to have a lot of questions and answers he has to deal with," Maddy said. [B]But, she added, "the law couldn't prove it."[/B][/quote][quote]After nine hours of discussion about the evidence, Maddy said, she concluded there wasn't enough proof to convict of murder or the lesser charge of manslaughter under Florida state law.
She said she "felt confused" because "if a person kills someone, then you get charged for it.''
[B]"But as the law was read to me, if you have no proof that he killed him intentionally, you can't say he's guilty,'' she added[/B][/quote]
(emphasis mine)
Sounds to me like she felt Zimmerman was morally responsible, but not legally. I don't however get the impression that she feels they made a mistake with the verdict.
Of course we can't read someone minds, but if I had to guess, I would bet that once she emerged from sequester and realizing all the attention that this decision is getting, she is running for a little "cover" from backlash.
I think this shows that the jury was a good cross-section of America, in regards to how they look at this case. Another juror said she felt that the shooting was justified. This one says it was not. In the end, they ALL came to one conclusion, one that anybody who looks at it objectively has to come to: the charges were not proven beyond a reasonable doubt, so the "not guilty" verdict was the only right one.
I just wish we could all move on now.
[QUOTE=RoadToad;518438]
I just wish we could all move on now.[/QUOTE]
I will move ON, when the BLACK activists MOVE ON........Sorry, but Lefties always want to drag **** out like this.
It was PROVEN beyond any doubt, that this was not about race, yet the LEFTISTS in Obama's Administration, and the LEFTISTS in the Media simply cannot believe that a THUG punk tried to go MMA on an armed citizen and that armed citizen put a cap in his butt.
SO.........I will gladly move on, when Sharpton, and Jackson, and Obama are no longer pushing it.
Later,
Geo
What Don and George said for me and make it a double....
[QUOTE=mhall;518542]What Don and George said for me and make it a double....[/QUOTE]
Include me too.
[QUOTE=DJD;518406]Yeah I call bullcrap!!! Whose fault is it she didn't stick to her decision??? Somebody intimidate her? She speak and understand English???
I'll make a judgement call....she is an idiot. She had all the resources at her disposal during the trial and she made her decision. Imo..she is now listening to others and armchair QB opinions based on emotion not facts or law and she feels guilty for doing the right thing based upon the law. My gosh if a person was to watch the news now you would think Martin was a sweet little boy who just got shot by a big old mean man.
Bottom line Zimmerman killed a man who was more than likely gonna kill him or put him in extreme pain...possibly for life so he shot the young man to defend himself. He went to trial and was found innocent. This lady is trying to get something or some notoriety. I call bullcrap! Your not sleeping good huh?? I don't think you ever slept well with 8 kids![/QUOTE]
Actually she was not influenced by any thing but the trial evidence and the other jurors in the jury room.
I don't think she was wrong on her first vote.
Zimmerman still could face two more trials on this murder case. He could be sued civilly by the family and they could make him get on the stand and testify before the jury and judge. He never did that in the State Criminal Trail in Florida.
And then the Feds can still charge him with civil rights violations and that's a good possibility after the civil trial is over. The Feds can use any thing that Zimmerman has said in the past and during a Civil Trial against George Zimmerman.
And then he will also finally have to answer to God some day. That will be the real trial. If he lied he will go to hell and if he's telling the truth then he will go to heaven I guess. Only God really knows if he lied or told the truth and he will be judged by that and other things he did in his life.
I think that George made the big mistake in not backing off and waiting for the police to arrive. He really didn't have to get out of his vehicle to chase or stalk Trevon. That's the police's job not Zimmermans. We don't need vigilantes in this Country. I think that George made a mistake by following the kid.
And that Video that someone showed is BS. I've never heard such a biased report in all my life. According to that guy he and his right wing WEB SITEs are true journalist and the other major news media outlets are all biased. Funny how he got that backwards!
[QUOTE=RoadToad;518438]I think this shows that the jury was a good cross-section of America, in regards to how they look at this case. Another juror said she felt that the shooting was justified. This one says it was not. In the end, they ALL came to one conclusion, one that anybody who looks at it objectively has to come to: the charges were not proven beyond a reasonable doubt, so the "not guilty" verdict was the only right one.
I just wish we could all move on now.[/QUOTE]
The reason they could not convict Zimmerman is because the only other witness was shot dead though the heart. He could not tell the story and Zimmerman made sure of that!
This stand your ground law could also apply to Trevon who was being stalked by Zimmerman for no good reason. Zimmerman was not a policeman and had no right to stalk anyone and follow them around. That's illegal in my State. There are plenty of states that have stalking laws. Zimmerman was asked not to do what he was doing by the dispatcher yet he ignored that good advise and decided to talk matters into his own hands when he got out of his vehicle and followed or chased Trevon into the darkness.
Trevon didn't lead George back to his dads place as he had a younger brother at that place and didn't want to bring the white cracker into contact with his little brother. That was smart of him to lead the stalker away from his little brother. The little brother was home alone and the last thing you want to do is go straight home with a stranger following you first in his car and then on foot in the dark and rainy night. What would you do if someone started following you? Would you flee or stand your ground? Trevon was unarmed unless you call a bottle of Watermellon drink and a bag of skittle arms. I think not.
Sorry guys but I have to agree with the juror that voted on the first vote in the jury room to convict Zimmerman of 2nd degree murder. The laws need to be changed in Florida to keep this type of stalking and killing from happening again.
And Zimmerman definitely profiled the kid who he saw a a black man in a hoodie who was up to no good. But all he really saw was a kid on his way back home to watch TV with his little brother and carrying a soda and some candy. Funny how rose colored glasses change the way we see things.
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And that Video that someone showed is BS. I've never heard such a biased report in all my life. According to that guy he and his right wing WEB SITEs are true journalist and the other major news media outlets are all biased. Funny how he got that backwards![/QUOTE]
Hahahaha have you bumped your head??? Did you forget how the dispatch tapes were manipulated and put out as facts on this case and then retracted later?? Your aware this was turned into a race issue by these so called media outlets and tapes...
I find it hard to believe anyone can say mainstream media is not biased to the left unless you lean left in your beliefs but in this case it was criminal what they did. For example....Fox news leans right and I watch fox but I'm not going to say they don't do that.
[quote]And then he will also finally have to answer to God some day. That will be the real trial. If he lied he will go to hell and if he's telling the truth then he will go to heaven I guess. Only God really knows if he lied or told the truth and he will be judged by that and other things he did in his life. [/quote]
Not to derail this thread, but I don't believe that whether or not we will go to heaven or hell is based on if we have lied or told the truth, or if we have sinned or not sinned certain amounts. We can't earn it ourselves for all have sinned and are deserving of hell when compared to Gods standards.
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For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:- Eph 2:8[/I]
[quote] I think that George made the big mistake in not backing off and waiting for the police to arrive. He really didn't have to get out of his vehicle to chase or stalk Trevon. That's the police's job not Zimmermans. We don't need vigilantes in this Country. I think that George made a mistake by following the kid. [/quote]
I agree with you in the sense that personally I also would have done things differently. However the facts are before then later telling him to return to his car the operator first had told him to let them know if he (TM) did anything suspicious. Also there is nothing illegal about following someone. He didn't break any laws in doing so. If TM had not chosen to assault Zimmerman none of this would have ever happened. That is the true cause of why it happened, and not because Zimmerman didn't stay in his car.
[QUOTE=Moveon;518580]The reason they could not convict Zimmerman is because the only other witness was shot dead though the heart. He could not tell the story and Zimmerman made sure of that!
This stand your ground law could also apply to Trevon who was being stalked by Zimmerman for no good reason. Zimmerman was not a policeman and had no right to stalk anyone and follow them around. That's illegal in my State. There are plenty of states that have stalking laws. Zimmerman was asked not to do what he was doing by the dispatcher yet he ignored that good advise and decided to talk matters into his own hands when he got out of his vehicle and followed or chased Trevon into the darkness.
Trevon didn't lead George back to his dads place as he had a younger brother at that place and didn't want to bring the white cracker into contact with his little brother. That was smart of him to lead the stalker away from his little brother. The little brother was home alone and the last thing you want to do is go straight home with a stranger following you first in his car and then on foot in the dark and rainy night. What would you do if someone started following you? Would you flee or stand your ground? Trevon was unarmed unless you call a bottle of Watermellon drink and a bag of skittle arms. I think not.
Sorry guys but I have to agree with the juror that voted on the first vote in the jury room to convict Zimmerman of 2nd degree murder. The laws need to be changed in Florida to keep this type of stalking and killing from happening again.
And Zimmerman definitely profiled the kid who he saw a a black man in a hoodie who was up to no good. But all he really saw was a kid on his way back home to watch TV with his little brother and carrying a soda and some candy. Funny how rose colored glasses change the way we see things.[/QUOTE]
Just curious where your getting this stalking as fact idea from? The idea of a little brother being protected is news to me as well. Can you give a link? I haven't heard this...
Zimmerman defiantly profiled the young man?? How do you know this? He didn't take the stand and say that did he?