I HOPE we get boots on the Ground it Syria

[kygorski]

Te world is sick and tired of these wars. They don't settle a **** thing. If congress does not give him a resounding OK and he proceeds anyway. impeach and remove him from office.This moral light of the world ******** has gone far enough. Don't believe me? look up SAVAK, Project X in Guatemala, US renditions.theres more, contrary to what some folks think, I love this country, but I don't like snow jobs.

[jcb]

Te world is sick and tired of these wars. They don't settle a **** thing. If congress does not give him a resounding OK and he proceeds anyway. impeach and remove him from office.This moral light of the world ******** has gone far enough. Don't believe me? look up SAVAK, Project X in Guatemala, US renditions.theres more, contrary to what some folks think, I love this country, but I don't like snow jobs.

I have to say, politically, Pres. Obama is amazing. He is in a win-win situation.

Congress says yes, we do our dirty work, works out great, all win.
Congress says yes, we do our dirty work, and is a failure, well, it was a joint decision, not just me.
Congress says no, things to to cra# in Syria, Obama gets to blame Congress.
Congress says no, it's a short-term PR setback, but if things improve in Syria, Obama can claim it's because of his deliberate, patient style.

[DJD]

I have to say, politically, Pres. Obama is amazing. He is in a win-win situation.

Congress says yes, we do our dirty work, works out great, all win.
Congress says yes, we do our dirty work, and is a failure, well, it was a joint decision, not just me.
Congress says no, things to to cra# in Syria, Obama gets to blame Congress.
Congress says no, it's a short-term PR setback, but if things improve in Syria, Obama can claim it's because of his deliberate, patient style.

Yep the man is a master at the political game and make no mistake that's all it is....a game. It's all about who wins and has power and the money they get from taxes is what they play with...house money. I CANNOT stand anything about Obama....if he does something great I still remember all his lies, faults and lies (oh I already said that) but I will and have always gave him credit for his mastery at manipulation and playing the game. I dare to say he is the best that ever held office. I can see a college course at some über liberal college called Obama 101.

[GeoFisher]

Yep the man is a master at the political game and make no mistake that's all it is....a game. It's all about who wins and has power and the money they get from taxes is what they play with...house money. I CANNOT stand anything about Obama....if he does something great I still remember all his lies, faults and lies (oh I already said that) but I will and have always gave him credit for his mastery at manipulation and playing the game. I dare to say he is the best that ever held office. I can see a college course at some über liberal college called Obama 101.

Unlike our LAST president who didn't give two shits about his legacy.

History will see Bush in a much better light than he is currently seen. BTW.......Ole George Bush has a better approval rating than Obama......IMAGINE THAT....you suppose he knew something about something. Maybe Obama needs to "Cowboy UP".

Later,

Geo

[RoadToad]

I have to say, politically, Pres. Obama is amazing. He is in a win-win situation.

Congress says yes, we do our dirty work, works out great, all win.
Congress says yes, we do our dirty work, and is a failure, well, it was a joint decision, not just me.
Congress says no, things to to cra# in Syria, Obama gets to blame Congress.
Congress says no, it's a short-term PR setback, but if things improve in Syria, Obama can claim it's because of his deliberate, patient style.

I disagree completely. The American people are very divided on this issue, and, he's having to do a hard sell on this, so if we go in and it's a disaster (the most likely outcome, IMO), it'll also be a political disaster for him. Of course he's a lame duck, so it might not matter so much, but whatever legacy he might have had is even further tarnished if that happens.

[jcb]

I disagree completely. The American people are very divided on this issue, and, he's having to do a hard sell on this, so if we go in and it's a disaster (the most likely outcome, IMO), it'll also be a political disaster for him. Of course he's a lame duck, so it might not matter so much, but whatever legacy he might have had is even further tarnished if that happens.

You might be right. But I think the most likely outcome is, we don't go and it's a disaster. I'm already reading rumors of a possible exit strategy.