Thanks stripernut,I will be fishing the 23-29th at the dam end of the lake and the river.Were camping at kendal and be in a 18foot camo tracker with shellkat on the side, may bump into you somewhere, stop at the camper for a glass of porch wine, site 28. We do pretty good execpt when they are deep, so we decided to try a little trolling, we might not do any good but it sure beats working.