is the shutdown helping?

[DJD]

I think that the better plan is Obamacare. I'd rather see it play out and see how it's going to work. I know of some people who are staunch republicans and have seen their health insurance cost drop significantly and are very happy that it happened because of Obamacare.

And the people in Mass are not complaining about Romneycare there.

We don't have a choice.

[kygorski]

Either get insurance, or just crawl away somewhere and die. I've been paying insurance for probably 60 yrs, Auto, home, boating, and other involuntary insurance on property, and liability.Most has been voluntary. But some have NO insurance of any kind.I have paid a part of my medical insurance for the past 30 years. So a lot of us blame illegals for health care costs going up. YES they are part of it. BUT WHY ARE THEY HERE???. Hiring them is illegal, is it enforced? How many "dead beat" dads are walking around scot free, because the courts wont enforce judgements? Those of us who choose to be law abiding citizens are ignored. National health care is not a new nobahma idea. t has been proposed over and over since RMN was president. It would eventually come. BUT SINCE IT CAME WHILE A NOT WHITE MAN WAS POTUS,ITS A DISGRACE. Guess what, there may never be a " white old male" POTUS again.

[DJD]

Either get insurance, or just crawl away somewhere and die. I've been paying insurance for probably 60 yrs, Auto, home, boating, and other involuntary insurance on property, and liability.Most has been voluntary. But some have NO insurance of any kind.I have paid a part of my medical insurance for the past 30 years. So a lot of us blame illegals for health care costs going up. YES they are part of it. BUT WHY ARE THEY HERE???. Hiring them is illegal, is it enforced? How many "dead beat" dads are walking around scot free, because the courts wont enforce judgements? Those of us who choose to be law abiding citizens are ignored. National health care is not a new nobahma idea. t has been proposed over and over since RMN was president. It would eventually come. BUT SINCE IT CAME WHILE A NOT WHITE MAN WAS POTUS,ITS A DISGRACE. Guess what, there may never be a " white old male" POTUS again.

We will see another White potus (honestly I don't care what color just don't shove it on me that I can't like their policies if they are black) but he or she will have a minority running mate. Maybe the minority will be a woman but the days of two white guys running and winning is over IMO. That was a huge mistake on the part of the GOP this last time and I called that from the start......I mentioned better get a black or Hispanic running mate or its over.

[GeoFisher]

Either get insurance, or just crawl away somewhere and die. I've been paying insurance for probably 60 yrs, Auto, home, boating, and other involuntary insurance on property, and liability.Most has been voluntary. But some have NO insurance of any kind.I have paid a part of my medical insurance for the past 30 years. So a lot of us blame illegals for health care costs going up. YES they are part of it. BUT WHY ARE THEY HERE???. Hiring them is illegal, is it enforced? How many "dead beat" dads are walking around scot free, because the courts wont enforce judgements? Those of us who choose to be law abiding citizens are ignored. National health care is not a new nobahma idea. t has been proposed over and over since RMN was president. It would eventually come. BUT SINCE IT CAME WHILE A NOT WHITE MAN WAS POTUS,ITS A DISGRACE. Guess what, there may never be a " white old male" POTUS again.

WHAT is disgraceful is you pushing the race issue.

ObamaCare and my DISGUST for Obama has nothing to do with him being bi-racial. Yea, he's NOT BLACK, don't ya know.

Later,

Geo

[greenriverman1]

Either get insurance, or just crawl away somewhere and die. I've been paying insurance for probably 60 yrs, Auto, home, boating, and other involuntary insurance on property, and liability.Most has been voluntary. But some have NO insurance of any kind.I have paid a part of my medical insurance for the past 30 years. So a lot of us blame illegals for health care costs going up. YES they are part of it. BUT WHY ARE THEY HERE???. Hiring them is illegal, is it enforced? How many "dead beat" dads are walking around scot free, because the courts wont enforce judgements? Those of us who choose to be law abiding citizens are ignored. National health care is not a new nobahma idea. t has been proposed over and over since RMN was president. It would eventually come. BUT SINCE IT CAME WHILE A NOT WHITE MAN WAS POTUS,ITS A DISGRACE. Guess what, there may never be a " white old male" POTUS again.

Why is it so important to keep bringing up the POTUS race? Who gives a crap?

[kygorski]

Its gotta be something. He's for illegal immigrants, but he's deported more than Clinton bush put together. He's a closet muslim, but who has ordered more drone strikes, or killed more muslims than he has? He's a communist, but the poverty level is increasing, the middle class is shrinking, and the well off are doing better than ever. Can't he get anything right? He didn't start home land secutity. He is a coward for for not bombing Syria, he's fiscally irresponsible because he wants to pay back borrowed money for two wars he didn't start..Its got to be his color!! Get him out of office now, and put boener or who ever that orange guy is, in his office

[fishin350]

I am not racist I don't like either half white or black the man is a sorry excuse for an American!

[jcb]

Its gotta be something. He's for illegal immigrants, but he's deported more than Clinton bush put together. He's a closet muslim, but who has ordered more drone strikes, or killed more muslims than he has? He's a communist, but the poverty level is increasing, the middle class is shrinking, and the well off are doing better than ever.

Consider for a minute that your labels are exaggerations (Communist) or just plain wrong (closet Muslim), and the supposed contradictions you point out actually reflect the reality of a complicated world where everything is not black and white.

"For illegal immigrants"? He advocates a typically ultra-liberal immigration policy. "Closet Muslim"? No evidence beyond what the Alex Jones tin-foil hat crowd tries to dredge up. "Communist"? No, he's a liberal, which means he has some socialist tendencies.

[Moveon]

But I think that the GOP was hurt the most. At least that's what I'm hearing and reading in the media this morning.

[kygorski]

Yes he's a liberal. Those labels I mentioned have all been used against him.You have a bunch of guys blaming him for ALL the ills in the couhtry, and others claiming he has done nothing. He's been a lightning rod for kooks all over the country,why? Folks he was liberal when he ran the first time and won, he didn't change stripes and won again. WE may be unwashed, under educated, but we do vote.What I don't understand is IF YOU GUYS ARE SO SMART, WHY DO PICK HORSES ASSES FOR CANDIDATES?

[GeoFisher]

Consider for a minute that your labels are exaggerations (Communist) or just plain wrong (closet Muslim), and the supposed contradictions you point out actually reflect the reality of a complicated world where everything is not black and white.

"For illegal immigrants"? He advocates a typically ultra-liberal immigration policy. "Closet Muslim"? No evidence beyond what the Alex Jones tin-foil hat crowd tries to dredge up. "Communist"? No, he's a liberal, which means he has some socialist tendencies.

His father and step-father was a Muslim......And he was raised as a child in a Muslim Madrassa, which REQUIRED Muslim Faith.

If he never renounced his Muslim Faith and was NEVER baptized as a Christian, then he is a Muslim.

Later,

Geo

[jcb]

His father and step-father was a Muslim......And he was raised as a child in a Muslim Madrassa, which REQUIRED Muslim Faith.

If he never renounced his Muslim Faith and was NEVER baptized as a Christian, then he is a Muslim.

Later,

Geo

Man, that is just incredibly arrogant. Astoundingly so.

The man says he is a Christian. He's said it many times. He was raised primarily by his mother, who was a Christian. Say what you want about him, and I'll agree with a lot of it, but you don't get to define for people what makes them this faith or that faith.