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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    I see it as bad and would be more shocked than Obama being voted in. At least the dems could blame 8 years of bush to get votes then, would you figure would make her so tough?
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    There are a lot of people still around who liked Bill Clinton for the entire 8 years he was in office (myself included) and I believe that would carry a lot of weight at the poles.

    I missed your post earlier or would have responded sooner.

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    Bonefish I agree with all you said my question do you feel this is due to incompetence or is this being done because he hates America. One moment I think he is destroying the America I love because he hates it then I look at his qualifications and I think he is totally incompetent.

    I know he ran on changing America and redistributing wealth and he has been successful with these two agendas. Because of his lies we do not know how much damage he is really doing. I know he has changed the way unemployment is measured so we don't know the real numbers. We also know his obama care is not about health care but is about redistribution of wealth and because of this and how terrible it really is as far as providing affordable good health care to the masses it might be his undoing.

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    Obama had very little experience when voted into office so he was ill prepared, and now he chooses to be controlled by forces from shadows around him. The thirst of money, greed and power has corrupted both parties, and personally, I am not seeing any “real” person out there that has the wisdom, knowledge and courage to turn this country around at this time. The first four years of Obama’s term was a wreck. In last four years the working age Americans with a job has fallen drastically with a loss of around $4000 income as well. Poverty has exploded; the national debt exploded. Obama has yet to criticize the Federal Reserve which has great influence over the economy for its horrific record. The US economy has been in decline for a long time, but it has accelerated beyond belief the last four years. However, let us not kid ourselves, there has been decades of stupid decisions by Congress and past administrations but nothing like has happened under the Obama administration. The number of Americans of food stamps has increased approximately 11,000 per day. The number of Americans receiving money directly from the federal government each month is more than 128 million. Unemployment has not changed in the last eight years. Only 59 percent of all working age Americans have a job. The number of Americans collecting federal disability insurance rose by 18 percent during Obama’s first term. Small businesses has had devastating years under Obama. Approximately 53 percent of all US college graduates under the age of 25 are either unemployed or underemployed. Fifty eight percent of jobs created have been low paying jobs. We are a nation of working poor. The US has fallen in global economic competitiveness rankings for four years in a row. In the last eight years the US has lost more than 300,000 education jobs. For the first time ever more that a million public school children are homeless. Family heads under the age of 30 have a poverty rate of 37 percent. Electricity bills have risen faster than inflation for five years in a row. Health insurance costs have risen 29 percent in the past eight years. Seventy seven percent of all Americans live paycheck to paycheck. Obamacare will add 16 million Americans to the Medicaid rolls and add to poor America. The amount of money the government gives directly to the American people has increased by 32 percent under Obama. The US taxpayers spend more than 20 times as much on the Obama’s as British taxpayers spend on the royal family. The budget deficit is over a trillion dollars each year under Obama. Why then does the mainstream media and the left continue to praise this man? Newsweek recently said Obama’s second term is the “The Second Comin” and Rev. Baxton compared Obama to Moses. At some point the blind, misguided, misinformed and uneducated will go over the cliff. Where is that Great Leader that we so desperately need now? Where is that man that has the wisdom and knowledge to lead the great county once again for its citizen’s good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    I see it as bad and would be more shocked than Obama being voted in. At least the dems could blame 8 years of bush to get votes then, would you figure would make her so tough?
    I wonder if I would be called a raciest because I can not stand her a$$!

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    Again Bonefish you are right on target however I would like your and every one else opinion is he destroying America through ignorance or is it intentional.

    If it is intentional who is pulling his strings?

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    Roadrunner, I wish I knew the answer to that question. If you watch the “Blacklist”, it makes you think if there could be under-lying forces that we know nothing about that control governments of the world. Being that I have no first-hand knowledge of such things, I must stick to things I feel are true. I feel like the American people needed and wanted a change in their government, and the time seemed right for a young black man with grand promises of change to become president. Mind you, it was the impressionistic young, the uninformed, the misguided, the hand-out taker, and the power-seekers that put him in office. Truly, it was a moment in American history when all caution was thrown to the wind. Still to this day many of us are asking how this could happen. Well, it did and now we are seeing the consequences of a president not ready for the job. Many Democrats are now pulling away from him because they see him as weak. If Obama and Democrats had prior knowledge of economics they would have known taking one-sixth of the economy and placing it under complex bureaucratic regulations, market disincentives, high cost and new taxes that their legislation had little chance of success. Big government programs most always do not meet the dreamer’s expectations, in other words, “governmental fantasy.”

    Again Obama allowed Russia to be peacemaker in the Middle East. Who would have thought France is now the hard-liner with Iran. He said Israel had little to fear with his negotiations with Iran. Even more freighting is legislation can be adopted by a press conference. Isn’t that a bold move? This is a desperate act from desperate president. Some of the problems setting up big government programs involve not taking the time to think things through… a “looseness” with the facts so to speak, which begins with over-promising. Then when the wheels start to come off, the posturing and spinning starts, and after that comes the hypocrisy of big government programs… the benefits and exemptions to favored constituencies and politically connected to save face and minimize harm in the next election. This administration is drowning in its sins of commission in a flood of empty promises. Before this administration is over, he will find himself retreating in the shadows of failure. But until then his task now is to be not remember in American history for a total failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonefish View Post
    Roadrunner, I wish I knew the answer to that question. If you watch the “Blacklist”, it makes you think if there could be under-lying forces that we know nothing about that control governments of the world. Being that I have no first-hand knowledge of such things, I must stick to things I feel are true. I feel like the American people needed and wanted a change in their government, and the time seemed right for a young black man with grand promises of change to become president. Mind you, it was the impressionistic young, the uninformed, the misguided, the hand-out taker, and the power-seekers that put him in office. Truly, it was a moment in American history when all caution was thrown to the wind. Still to this day many of us are asking how this could happen. Well, it did and now we are seeing the consequences of a president not ready for the job. Many Democrats are now pulling away from him because they see him as weak. If Obama and Democrats had prior knowledge of economics they would have known taking one-sixth of the economy and placing it under complex bureaucratic regulations, market disincentives, high cost and new taxes that their legislation had little chance of success. Big government programs most always do not meet the dreamer’s expectations, in other words, “governmental fantasy.”

    Again Obama allowed Russia to be peacemaker in the Middle East. Who would have thought France is now the hard-liner with Iran. He said Israel had little to fear with his negotiations with Iran. Even more freighting is legislation can be adopted by a press conference. Isn’t that a bold move? This is a desperate act from desperate president. Some of the problems setting up big government programs involve not taking the time to think things through… a “looseness” with the facts so to speak, which begins with over-promising. Then when the wheels start to come off, the posturing and spinning starts, and after that comes the hypocrisy of big government programs… the benefits and exemptions to favored constituencies and politically connected to save face and minimize harm in the next election. This administration is drowning in its sins of commission in a flood of empty promises. Before this administration is over, he will find himself retreating in the shadows of failure. But until then his task now is to be not remember in American history for a total failure.
    Couldn't agree more on how he became potus and his legacy. People wanted change and got caught up in the Hollywood style of his politics.....I wasn't fooled for one second and I don't have the college learnuns that a lot of people do.....I can just spot a liar, fake snake oil salesman a mile away......and he is worse than all those.

    The thing is....he will always hide under the shield of racist hate against him. This was and is the trump card by the Dems over and over.... It was a bold, smart and tactile play by a party that held nothing back to get their way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
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    There are a lot of people still around who liked Bill Clinton for the entire 8 years he was in office (myself included) and I believe that would carry a lot of weight at the poles.

    I missed your post earlier or would have responded sooner.
    Man I hope your wrong!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    Couldn't agree more on how he became potus and his legacy. People wanted change and got caught up in the Hollywood style of his politics.....I wasn't fooled for one second and I don't have the college learnuns that a lot of people do.....I can just spot a liar, fake snake oil salesman a mile away......and he is worse than all those.

    The thing is....he will always hide under the shield of racist hate against him. This was and is the trump card by the Dems over and over.... It was a bold, smart and tactile play by a party that held nothing back to get their way.
    Well said, DJ.

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    "Mind you, it was the impressionistic young, the uninformed, the misguided, the hand-out taker, and the power-seekers that put him in office. Truly, it was a moment in American history when all caution was thrown to the wind."

    I am afraid this is the real problem even more so than Obama. I saw it when Clinton was re-elected after having sex with a young intern in the oval office; a sure sign of moral decay and now we have the above mentioned people electing those who will represent us.

    Besides the moral decay we have lost our pride and our values. Most people my age (68) and certainly my parents age would starve to death before they would accept hand out from the government. They would accept help from a neighbor but they would work for it if they were able. Now so many people expect the government to take care of them, they think it is owed to them and they want to stay on the gravy train as long as possible where as their grandparents wanted out of the program as soon as possible. The people today will even game the system or cheat in any way to get on and stay on the gravy train. Their grandparent would have rather staved to death than to cheat the system. They would take some assistance for their family if they could not provide any other way but it would be an embarrassment for them.

    We can not be proud of where we are today and if we continue down this path we are in real trouble in the very near future in my opinion.

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