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    Global Warming scientists stranded by ........ICE

    Imagine that.........a group of scientists headed to the antarctic to measure melting ice have been listening to the the WRONG scientists.......

    Even though there is satellite proof that ice is thicker than has ever been recorded, and there is 60% more ice than 20 years ago, these ASS HAT fools still went on their expedition.

    Now they are at risk of dying due to their research vessel being stuck in 15ft of sea ice. Multiple attempts have been made to rescue them, and it now looks like a Russian helicopter will have to be used.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-rescuers.html

    I sure hope no one dies due to this foolishness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    Imagine that.........a group of scientists headed to the antarctic to measure melting ice have been listening to the the WRONG scientists.......

    Even though there is satellite proof that ice is thicker than has ever been recorded, and there is 60% more ice than 20 years ago, these ASS HAT fools still went on their expedition.

    Now they are at risk of dying due to their research vessel being stuck in 15ft of sea ice. Multiple attempts have been made to rescue them, and it now looks like a Russian helicopter will have to be used.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-rescuers.html

    I sure hope no one dies due to this foolishness.

    Later,

    Geo
    Ass clowns! Let them learn the hard way......surely Al Gore is on his way to assist his fello scientists!!!

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    Hmmm.. Does this mean you guys believe the pictures of the ice caps melting were faked?.. I'll bet you believe they faked the moon landing photos too, is there no end to what our government will do,well, that is unless it is a right wing government that could care less about anything but the bottom lines of those who support it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
    Hmmm.. Does this mean you guys believe the pictures of the ice caps melting were faked?.. I'll bet you believe they faked the moon landing photos too, is there no end to what our government will do,well, that is unless it is a right wing government that could care less about anything but the bottom lines of those who support it.
    No, it is quite simple, and EXACTLY what I've been saying all along. Weather ebbs and flows in cycles. WHEN the IDIOTS out there stop trying to make money off those cycles by scaring YOU, maybe we will get somewhere.

    Yea, the polar and antarctic ice caps are melting. They have melted and frozen for about 10 or 20 thousand years. It is part of the Cycle.

    It is quite amazing that you associate gubment conspiracies along with this.........you're right, there is NO TELLING what the Obamunists will do to further their agenda. Just look at what they have done. And make NO bones about it.......global warming is a center piece of their misdirected agenda.

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    I would like to say that I believe the planet is warming, I doubt man can control that, I do believe we can add to the problem in a small way, I do not believe we can stop/reverse it, I also believe those who seem to attempt to deny it (add whatever names you want here, you might even include yours from reading your original post) and yes I believe it goes in cycles which likely has a major effect on life here and the extinction of it which has historically permitted new varieties of life to evolve.

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    Ark...Ark..., News Alert, some Fishin.com members have seen the light, reviewed their science books, and mounted a sea expidation to rescure members of the stranded ship! Thank God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyLie View Post
    Ark...Ark..., News Alert, some Fishin.com members have seen the light, reviewed their science books, and mounted a sea expidation to rescure members of the stranded ship! Thank God.
    Clearly I'm not as learned on GW as you, and I love your irony, but don't you see anything wrong here at all? I mean a boatload of climate experts who according to you are beyond reproach and should be believed by us all without question, head down to ply their science and get stuck in the ice. Come on now...really?

    You seem pretty scornful of anyone who questions the oh so brilliant climatologists who don't appear to be intelligent enough to recognize ice. Maybe the rescuers could play the new Disney movie "Frozen" for them during the trip back to safety.

    Ark, ark...news alert: Anyone who has the temerity to question GW science, and liberal ideology in general is not necessarily a dumb ass fossil fuel company stooge.

    There are those who've watched global crisis alarmists crow about one thing or another their whole lives, and have the common sense to be skeptical of the latest crew. According to the scientific global crisis experts of my youth, the planet was supposed to be so over populated by now, we'd all be starving...but we're not.

    Climate experts back then were predicting global cooling as I remember it, and since GW isn't cooperating with them the current fashionable term is is climate change.

    And finally, GW might be easier to believe if hokey stuff didn't keep popping up like intentional falsification/reporting of climate data, and GW scientific uh...experts declaring bovine flatulence as a major problem.

    Have a fun ride aboard the bovine flatulence bandwagon, but use your head some before you poke fun at us who choose to exercise a little skepticism.

    Get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
    Hmmm.. Does this mean you guys believe the pictures of the ice caps melting were faked?.. I'll bet you believe they faked the moon landing photos too, is there no end to what our government will do,well, that is unless it is a right wing government that could care less about anything but the bottom lines of those who support it.
    I believe that it's a self serving crises. Conveniently drummed up to boost funds for special interest groups. I also believe there is so much misinformation out there that it's a crap shoot as to what you choose to believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    I believe that it's a self serving crises. Conveniently drummed up to boost funds for special interest groups. I also believe there is so much misinformation out there that it's a crap shoot as to what you choose to believe.
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    Well, not sure how anybody can deny the statistics.... I do believe people will use anything to their advantage, I believe there are people who would sacrifice his/her own grandmother for their own personal gain and sacrificing the planet would be no problem to them... I believe some of the 'green idiots' have made a fortune selling BS but it does seem data suggest changing climate is real, not sure how folks can look at the data and call the whole thing bogus.

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    Walk out on your front porch in your underwear next Tuesday and Wednesday mornings and see if you think the earth is warming.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
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    Well, not sure how anybody can deny the statistics.... I do believe people will use anything to their advantage, I believe there are people who would sacrifice his/her own grandmother for their own personal gain and sacrificing the planet would be no problem to them... I believe some of the 'green idiots' have made a fortune selling BS but it does seem data suggest changing climate is real, not sure how folks can look at the data and call the whole thing bogus.
    Hasnt there been case after case of skewed data by so called scientists in the media? I really stopped looking at anything that is supposed to be concrete data because of this......one report can debunk another one.

    I always questioned why scientists are so confident that this isn't a cyclic weather condition. I have been told it's because of data from samples from snow or ice or drillings that prove global warming. Again, when I see a multi billion dollar industry racked with political corruption i do question anything that they say. Look at the things that happens because of this so called crises. Coal industry is in the crosshairs of Obama and destroying families and I suspect his supportive greenies could care less as long as they get what they want. Billions of tax dollars sent to start up company's that are supposed to be cutting edge greenie type energy...solyndra being one.....at a time in this country when we spend more than we collect in taxes. Yet it seems to be ok because of Global Warming which was changed to Climate Change. Wonder why that was changed?? Maybe because it's hard to get support for a political special interest group tied to a term like Global Warming when it's freezing?!?!? Maybe??? Stats that show coldest times in recent history but greenies want money because of global warming? People don't jump on board that easy with that term. See what I mean?? Self serving groups and political idiots doing exactly what you agree can happen. Sell their soul to get what they want.

    Im not sold on it as being a multi billion dollar emergency. I'm all for cleaner air or alternative sources of energy or becoming less dependent on others for our energy but that's pretty much where I stop because the end doesn't justify the means. Instead of true effort to so some of this we have to have greenies (mostly liberals) target the coal industry, oil drilling off shore, SUVs and on and on. If our political leaders and the Al Gores of this country really believed the poop they sell they would practice what they preach. Show me a picture or news story of Al Gore not using fossil fuels or jetting around the world in airplanes. Show me where his house is solar powered and and he doesn't vacation in muti million dollar places that leave a huge "carbon footprint". Ain't gonna happen. Fabricated facts to boost their cause of controlling others all in the name on Global Warming that's what I believe.

    Am I a skeptic? Yes, because they made me one. I prolly do more to use less energy or a have a less carbon footprint than these crooks. I drive a V6 SUV instead on a V8 I purchased a 4-stoke motor on my last boat and will do so again. Updated my air conditioning and water heater to cleaner or more efficient units when they went bad. I could have gone cheaper on a few specs on these but chose more efficient ones.

    Without writing a book....that's why I am a skeptic on global Warming, climate change or whatever they will call it in the future. It's politics and i have to question the motive when there is so much money at stake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    Hasnt there been case after case of skewed data by so called scientists in the media? I really stopped looking at anything that is supposed to be concrete data because of this......one report can debunk another one.

    I always questioned why scientists are so confident that this isn't a cyclic weather condition. I have been told it's because of data from samples from snow or ice or drillings that prove global warming. Again, when I see a multi billion dollar industry racked with political corruption i do question anything that they say. Look at the things that happens because of this so called crises. Coal industry is in the crosshairs of Obama and destroying families and I suspect his supportive greenies could care less as long as they get what they want. Billions of tax dollars sent to start up company's that are supposed to be cutting edge greenie type energy...solyndra being one.....at a time in this country when we spend more than we collect in taxes. Yet it seems to be ok because of Global Warming which was changed to Climate Change. Wonder why that was changed?? Maybe because it's hard to get support for a political special interest group tied to a term like Global Warming when it's freezing?!?!? Maybe??? Stats that show coldest times in recent history but greenies want money because of global warming? People don't jump on board that easy with that term. See what I mean?? Self serving groups and political idiots doing exactly what you agree can happen. Sell their soul to get what they want.

    Im not sold on it as being a multi billion dollar emergency. I'm all for cleaner air or alternative sources of energy or becoming less dependent on others for our energy but that's pretty much where I stop because the end doesn't justify the means. Instead of true effort to so some of this we have to have greenies (mostly liberals) target the coal industry, oil drilling off shore, SUVs and on and on. If our political leaders and the Al Gores of this country really believed the poop they sell they would practice what they preach. Show me a picture or news story of Al Gore not using fossil fuels or jetting around the world in airplanes. Show me where his house is solar powered and and he doesn't vacation in muti million dollar places that leave a huge "carbon footprint". Ain't gonna happen. Fabricated facts to boost their cause of controlling others all in the name on Global Warming that's what I believe.

    Am I a skeptic? Yes, because they made me one. I prolly do more to use less energy or a have a less carbon footprint than these crooks. I drive a V6 SUV instead on a V8 I purchased a 4-stoke motor on my last boat and will do so again. Updated my air conditioning and water heater to cleaner or more efficient units when they went bad. I could have gone cheaper on a few specs on these but chose more efficient ones.

    Without writing a book....that's why I am a skeptic on global Warming, climate change or whatever they will call it in the future. It's politics and i have to question the motive when there is so much money at stake.
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    That is very well said... We agree on just about all of this issue, I believe Mr. Gore has used this as a cash cow since he first discovered he could do so.... It does seem to me that you believe the climate is changing somewhat yourself.... We differ a little in that I believe we do have a small effect on it, I doubt we can do much to alter that though, I believe we can keep our planet healthier by some of the things you stated as being choices you personally made.

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