Thanks for all the input! I think what we will have to do is take my bass boat down there since I have the fish finder and just use that to find a spot then hopefully we can fish them from the pontoon as well. I am also not a crappie fisherman but like I saw bass fishin 4-5 guys from a bass boat is not really do able. We will probably use mostly minnows and I am sure if I am on a new lake with my bass boat I will probably be bass fishing as well. Thanks again guys I think we are going to give it a shot. Its always ***** going into something blind like this but you'll never learn anything new if you don't give it a shot.