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    Propane Shortage or not? Rip off like Gas?

    Are the Propane suppliers doing the same thing that the OIL companies have done to us over the past ten years? With holding supplies to increase the prices? Or not?

    http://www.tristatehomepage.com/stor...YkGuM-Mxu49rEg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    Are the Propane suppliers doing the same thing that the OIL companies have done to us over the past ten years? With holding supplies to increase the prices? Or not?

    http://www.tristatehomepage.com/stor...YkGuM-Mxu49rEg
    You know......the article listed

    The obama Admin,
    the dept of energy
    the indiana department of transit
    the indiana department of permits
    the indiana department of revenue.

    And other various non-listed agencies.

    Edited to add a few other ******** laws:

    KY was asked to lift rules that don't allow companies to haul other companies propane.
    Ky was asked to lift the rules on how long a driver can drive to deliver product.

    Tell me this.........WTF does any one of them sum bitch agencies have to do with a freakin truck pulling up in your freakin back yard to deliver your freakin propane.

    NOTHING.

    You cannot have it both ways..........you cannot BITCH about not getting a delivery of product because of 18 levels of ********......and then talk about how GREAT it is to have all this ******** regulation.

    RANT OFF.

    Later,

    Geo
    Last edited by GeoFisher; 02-04-2014 at 07:53 PM. Reason: edited to add additional BS Laws......

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    You know......the article listed

    The obama Admin,
    the dept of energy
    the indiana department of transit
    the indiana department of permits
    the indiana department of revenue.

    And other various non-listed agencies.

    Edited to add a few other ******** laws:

    KY was asked to lift rules that don't allow companies to haul other companies propane.
    Ky was asked to lift the rules on how long a driver can drive to deliver product.

    Tell me this.........WTF does any one of them sum bitch agencies have to do with a freakin truck pulling up in your freakin back yard to deliver your freakin propane.

    NOTHING.

    You cannot have it both ways..........you cannot BITCH about not getting a delivery of product because of 18 levels of ********......and then talk about how GREAT it is to have all this ******** regulation.

    RANT OFF.

    Later,

    Geo
    And while your at it........watch the video link here:

    http://www.tristatehomepage.com/stor...N0uHZqNvRPb8-g

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    AND it looks like some fed and state regulations

    with regards to pipelines and storage are also causing issues.

    I guess all those new lines that folks were protesting last year, were ACTUALLY needed.

    "
    • Transportation Infrastructure: The December shutdown of the Cochin pipeline in the upper Midwest coupled with the reversal of another Midwest pipeline that previously transported propane contributed to that region's tight propane supplies. As supplies from natural gas and crude oil increase, so has competition for pipeline access and resources.

    "Measures must be taken to ensure that the proper infrastructure is available to move propane from large national storage facilities to local propane retailers, especially in the winter," PERC said.

    • Storage: The majority of the large propane storage facilities are located outside the Northeast and Midwest where most propane is used. Increasing local storage capacity in these regions would enable quicker response to increased demand but often requires overcoming local political and perceptual hurdles.

    •Exports: The U.S. is producing ample propane supply, but more is being shipped overseas than ever before. In 2013, more than 20% of U.S. propane production was exported, up from 5% in 2008. Increased exports have made a large portion of these stockpiles unavailable for domestic use.
    "

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