There was a time in America when we CARED

[HURRICANEBOB]

What American interests? Do we have a bunch of Walmarts there?

The Ukraine borders no major American commercial shipping lanes. I doubt we do much commercial fishing in the Black Sea.

Do we get lots of crude oil from Ukraine? Nope

Political or international pressure...sure go for it! But not as the leader, as a supporter of UN action.

Foreign aide? I say not one flippin penny of my tax dollars.

And I say we stay completely out of it, until the UN does its flippin job. UN starts the sanctions, then the US votes for it as a follower. If we lead it, we become the target for opposing radicals, an when the first Ukrainian sponsor attack hits a US territory or activity, then we will be committing troops and $$$$$$$.

[GeoFisher]

What American interests? Do we have a bunch of Walmarts there?

The Ukraine borders no major American commercial shipping lanes. I doubt we do much commercial fishing in the Black Sea.

Do we get lots of crude oil from Ukraine? Nope

Political or international pressure...sure go for it! But not as the leader, as a supporter of UN action.

Foreign aide? I say not one flippin penny of my tax dollars.

And I say we stay completely out of it, until the UN does its flippin job. UN starts the sanctions, then the US votes for it as a follower. If we lead it, we become the target for opposing radicals, an when the first Ukrainian sponsor attack hits a US territory or activity, then we will be committing troops and $$$$$$$.

1). All oil flowing to European countries comes through the Ukraine.
2). The Ukraine has a crap ton of nuclear material and weapons.
3). The Ukraine is on the cusp of tetering back to SOCIALIST or worse COMMUNIST rule.
Lots of people died to keep that from becoming a reality.
4). Putin needs to be knocked down a peg or to. You guys though Bush was bad. WOW.

I'm sure I could come up with a bigger list........but you get the point.

[HURRICANEBOB]

1). All oil flowing to European countries comes through the Ukraine.
2). The Ukraine has a crap ton of nuclear material and weapons.
3). The Ukraine is on the cusp of tetering back to SOCIALIST or worse COMMUNIST rule.
Lots of people died to keep that from becoming a reality.
4). Putin needs to be knocked down a peg or to. You guys though Bush was bad. WOW.

I'm sure I could come up with a bigger list........but you get the point.

So what...the only thing you listed is what the pukes will do to themselves. Not my neighborhood, not my problem. Easier to bull doze and build on the disaster site.