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    Crimea


    Ethnic groups (2001) 58.32% Russians
    24.32% Ukrainians
    12.10% Crimean Tatars



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea

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    Here is a link to a site that posted some "selfies" that locals took and posted to Instagram which shows Russian soldiers occupying Crimea. I found it interesting.


    http://www.buzzfeed.com/jessicamisen...-with-soldiers

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLP View Post
    Crimea


    Ethnic groups (2001) 58.32% Russians
    24.32% Ukrainians
    12.10% Crimean Tatars



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea
    Look Closely at the EDITS to the page you posted. It has been edited hundreds of times TODAY.

    I think Russians in Crimea are editing the page to make it "look" like they are a majority there.

    This page is more legitimate, as the edits which are less that 10 this month, and even less last month include edits ONLY to add Data from UN on Demographics. I trust it more......

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Ukraine

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    This is a quote from the Forbes article you linked to in your post #19 (which was an interesting read, thanks)

    Just over half of the population are ethnic Russians, a quarter are ethnic Ukrainians and most of the remainder are Crimean Tatars
    I really think it is an accepted fact that Crimea is made up largely of a Russian population, and I will look for other references to post when I have more time. I was just getting ready to play a game with my son so I can't right now.

    Also looking at demographics for the entire country of Ukraine really isn't applicable to the point of Crimea.

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    Bloomberg:
    Russians comprise 59 percent of Crimea’s population of about 2 million, with 24 percent Ukrainian and 12 percent Tatar, 2001 census data show. Russians make up 17 percent of Ukraine’s total population of 45 million.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...t-ignored.html

    ABC News:

    WHY IT'S PART OF UKRAINE

    It only became part of Ukraine when Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev gave the peninsula to his native land in 1954. This hardly mattered until the Soviet Union broke up in 1991 and Crimea ended up in an independent Ukraine. Despite that, nearly 60 percent of its population of 2 million identify themselves as Russians.
    http://abcnews.go.com/International/...raine-22730722

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    I see what I did.

    You are right.......Crimea is mostly Russian. My demographic link is about Ukraine, which would be mostly Ukrainian.

    When I started looking I had read something about how Crimea was predominantly russian due to the 3 large cities in Crimea that are Russian, but that if you looked at the country as a whole it was mostly Ukrainian.

    Kind of like if you look at a Map of the United States broken down by county, we are a SOLID Red country, but pockets of democrats in Huge cities make up a significant amount of democrats in the country.....

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    Interesting story WHY Russia wants Ukraine

    Here is a very interesting story as to why the Ukraine is important to Russia from an economic perspective.

    http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...d-ukraine.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    Here is a very interesting story as to why the Ukraine is important to Russia from an economic perspective.

    http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...d-ukraine.aspx

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    Geo
    Yes that does make sense. Money and power....

    I remember years ago an article about Russia buying up energy sources so they could control others in years to come.

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    cold hard truth

    Europe depends on natural gas from Russia. Putin can cut supplys like happened to us during Carters term, and crete havoc with the EU economics. We have nothing to gain by sticking our noses in there. Do we have military interestd in Europe? We sure do. Europe has dragged us into two world wars, and partially into viet nam. A long time ago one of former leaders warned us against "foreign " entanglements. e chose to ignore that. Panama is a free country, but if our interests in the canal came into play, there would be marines there in a heart beat. And what would we say? Protecting American interests. All this money spent on defense could be spent on better things. NO ONE CAN INVADE US[except mexico]

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    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    Europe depends on natural gas from Russia. Putin can cut supplys like happened to us during Carters term, and crete havoc with the EU economics. We have nothing to gain by sticking our noses in there. Do we have military interestd in Europe? We sure do. Europe has dragged us into two world wars, and partially into viet nam. A long time ago one of former leaders warned us against "foreign " entanglements. e chose to ignore that. Panama is a free country, but if our interests in the canal came into play, there would be marines there in a heart beat. And what would we say? Protecting American interests. All this money spent on defense could be spent on better things. NO ONE CAN INVADE US[except mexico]
    I like knowing we have military superiority. After all if we don't protect our borders and watch our back who will? Of course Mexico doesn't count.......With all our military might we can't stop that illegal invasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    I like knowing we have military superiority. After all if we don't protect our borders and watch our back who will? Of course Mexico doesn't count.......With all our military might we can't stop that illegal invasion.
    Corporate America would have to want to first.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    I like knowing we have military superiority. After all if we don't protect our borders and watch our back who will? Of course Mexico doesn't count.......With all our military might we can't stop that illegal invasion.
    That's because we never apllied the military might to an civil immigration problem. Same reason Abrams tanks don't stop highway speeders.

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