Rude boater in Ohio river marina

[outdoorsman_33]

Here is some more info on it.


http://www.fishin.com/forums2/showth...river-marina-s

http://www.fishin.com/forums2/showth...ing-regulation

http://www.fishin.com/forums2/showth...56-Federal-Law

These forums did not clear up my confusion. What I gleaned from them was that on some corp lakes the marina owners can charge you with trespassing if you fish the Marinas. However, I was wondering about the marina's on the Ohio River. I know a lot of fisherman fish these marinas, and they fish them during tournaments, even though they have, "No Fishing Signs." Is it actually illegal to fish in the Marina's with "No Fishing Signs." or is it legal? Or is it only illegal to fish the slips, but the rock structure in the Marina is ok to fish? Any clarification would be appreciated.

Can someone shed some light on the public waterway statute?

Thanks

[Tim_T]

These forums did not clear up my confusion. What I gleaned from them was that on some corp lakes the marina owners can charge you with trespassing if you fish the Marinas. However, I was wondering about the marina's on the Ohio River. I know a lot of fisherman fish these marinas, and they fish them during tournaments, even though they have, "No Fishing Signs." Is it actually illegal to fish in the Marina's with "No Fishing Signs." or is it legal? Or is it only illegal to fish the slips, but the rock structure in the Marina is ok to fish? Any clarification would be appreciated.

Can someone shed some light on the public waterway statute?

Thanks

I can tell you what was told by the USCGS and the KDFWR officer during the rules meeting in 2007 prior to the BFL All-American on the river. Now keep in mind some of this could have changed, but if it has I have not heard about it. They said the only area off limits in Harrods Creek was the branch of Captains Quarters. Evidently someone had taken them to court saying it was a public, navigable creek, but since CQ actually dug that area out themselves, it was considered private. At that time, all other areas were legal. Keep in mind, this was several years ago and some things may have changed.

There is a small marina back on the left in Harrods Creek where the leader of the tournament had a run in with the guy from the Marina. It was all captured on video camera. The marina employee got bent out of shape after he tried to run the leader out of a place he was legally allowed to be. He decided to start taking pictures on his phone of the leaders boat, and the two media boats. Myself and Jim Dicken were in the second media boat and both started taking pictures of him. You never seen a more frustrated guy than the fool on the marina dock. It was classic.

[outdoorsman_33]

I can tell you what was told by the USCGS and the KDFWR officer during the rules meeting in 2007 prior to the BFL All-American on the river. Now keep in mind some of this could have changed, but if it has I have not heard about it. They said the only area off limits in Harrods Creek was the branch of Captains Quarters. Evidently someone had taken them to court saying it was a public, navigable creek, but since CQ actually dug that area out themselves, it was considered private. At that time, all other areas were legal. Keep in mind, this was several years ago and some things may have changed.

There is a small marina back on the left in Harrods Creek where the leader of the tournament had a run in with the guy from the Marina. It was all captured on video camera. The marina employee got bent out of shape after he tried to run the leader out of a place he was legally allowed to be. He decided to start taking pictures on his phone of the leaders boat, and the two media boats. Myself and Jim Dicken were in the second media boat and both started taking pictures of him. You never seen a more frustrated guy than the fool on the marina dock. It was classic.

Thanks Tim. For clarification "the branch of Captains Quarters" is this the marina just past Captain Quarters. Or are you referring to another section?

Thanks for responding

[MarkW]

I can tell you what was told by the USCGS and the KDFWR officer during the rules meeting in 2007 prior to the BFL All-American on the river. Now keep in mind some of this could have changed, but if it has I have not heard about it. They said the only area off limits in Harrods Creek was the branch of Captains Quarters. Evidently someone had taken them to court saying it was a public, navigable creek, but since CQ actually dug that area out themselves, it was considered private. At that time, all other areas were legal. Keep in mind, this was several years ago and some things may have changed.

There is a small marina back on the left in Harrods Creek where the leader of the tournament had a run in with the guy from the Marina. It was all captured on video camera. The marina employee got bent out of shape after he tried to run the leader out of a place he was legally allowed to be. He decided to start taking pictures on his phone of the leaders boat, and the two media boats. Myself and Jim Dicken were in the second media boat and both started taking pictures of him. You never seen a more frustrated guy than the fool on the marina dock. It was classic.

I have fished tournaments on the Ohio River for over 20 years now. I try to be courteous to everybody on the river and in Marinas. I go by what Tim_T posted on here when I'm around anywhere questionable. Anywhere that has a navigable creek running through it is open to the public. The only one I know of that isn't that way in Harrod's Creek is CQ. Most tournaments call that off limits. There's a marina upriver in Prospect that was dugout and it also qualifies as being private.I don't fish there either. I try to stay away from the boats most of the time. If I do cast near boats, I try to do so vdery carefully as not to hit the boats or get tangled up in their ropes.
Obviously the guy in the video was an idiot and hopefully they handled him appropriately like they said.

[peter]

These forums did not clear up my confusion. What I gleaned from them was that on some corp lakes the marina owners can charge you with trespassing if you fish the Marinas. However, I was wondering about the marina's on the Ohio River. I know a lot of fisherman fish these marinas, and they fish them during tournaments, even though they have, "No Fishing Signs." Is it actually illegal to fish in the Marina's with "No Fishing Signs." or is it legal? Or is it only illegal to fish the slips, but the rock structure in the Marina is ok to fish? Any clarification would be appreciated.

Can someone shed some light on the public waterway statute?

Thanks

Sorry. I should've made it clear that your point regarding not clearing up any confusion was exactly my point.

It is a complicated legal issue and there are different situations with different marinas on different waterways.