Drinking.....

[ryan_ekubass]

wow tom that sounds fishy and I am sure that there is two sides to every story. People can set back and arm chair quarterback any situation.

[TimE]

If there is alcohol open in public and there is not a liquor license that allows it than it is a crime. If you have blood shot, eyes unsteady on feet, slurred speech than you are AI. No won't take your shoes but may spend a night in the jail.

Blood shot eyes, slurred speech, unsteady on feet = AI? Good luck making that stick to anyone but a moron! I suggest you look up the statute.

[zx150]

Blood shot eyes, slurred speech, unsteady on feet = AI? Good luck making that stick to anyone but a moron! I suggest you look up the statute.

I'll bite. Why have you had a bunch of these thrown out of court? Cause I have not and this how I have written them up. Tell me what I am doing wrong????????????

[zx150]

To answer how a person is considered "manifestly under the influence of alcohol" the fore mentioned will be evidence of of the same.

[Tom523]

To answer how a person is considered "manifestly under the influence of alcohol" the fore mentioned will be evidence of of the same.

This seems to be rather subjective to be considered acceptable evidence. But I'll take your word for it. I look at it this way. If a cop arrests you, you are screwed. Even if you are innocent you still have to pay a price (missed work for court appearance, hiring a lawyer to prove it). So even if you're proven innocent, you still lose. Many people choose to pay the fine because it would be less expensive than to go to court and defend themselves. The policeman is not your friend. Don't volunteer any information or to do a sobriety test unless operating a vehicle. Volunteering to take a sobriety test is the same as consenting to a search. Do everything to protect yourself when a policeman approaches you. If an individual is intoxicated and is a danger to himself or others or interfering with another individual's pursuit of happiness then police should take action. If a guy is just sitting and fishing with a 6 pack and not bothering anyone then the police should just wish him a good day and move on. Just like every other organization there are good employees and bad. The same is with law enforcement. Many times doing what is legal for the officer does not make it right.

[zx150]

Most of the time that is the case. If your are sitting there minding your own business it is fine. But, 99 out of 100 that is not the case. Not volunteering info can get you into jail faster than anything. If I'm there and ask do you have anything that could get you in trouble, nope not at all I find it well a warning or ticket could have been the fix now since you lied you get to go to jail.

[mhall]

Ya know I can honestly say I have never lied to the Police and I have had oppuntinities to several times. I was pulled over coming home one time and was asked have you been drinking tonight. I said yes and I was fine and about 10 minutes from home. He said how many have you had and I answered 6 to 8 but over the course of several hours and I had ate dinner with the family I was with.

He looked at me and said I have never had anybody say that. I hear mostly yea I have had only a couple, I laughed and said I know you hear that all the time. He asked me a question and I gave him an honest answer. Six to 8 beers doesn't phase me especially if I have eaten. He saw that appreciated that I told him the truth and treated him with respect and told me to have nice night and go home.

In my travels of growing up I was quite a Hellun back in the day. Of course way back when I was in high school they just made us pour out our beer in the road and we went and bought some more, lol. However I have only run across a couple of ******* Cops but most 95% plus for me have been great people, treat them right and respectful and you will get the same in return.

[ryan_ekubass]

I did a ride along with a kyfw officer and he gave me some excellent advice. He told me "I always know the answer to the question that I am about to ask someone." He went on to tell me if he sees people on the river bank he dont just stroll up on them without watching them from a distance to see exactly what they are doing. He will watch the individuals actions to get a feel about who may cause him problems and how many people there really are and what they are actually doing. So generally if a CO rolls up on you they know already what you are doing and lying to them only makes it 100 times worse.

[Moveon]

These days it only takes two beers in an hour for me to be over the legal limit for alcohol in my blood and therefore I can't legally drive in IN. And by drive I mean driving a Motor Vehicle of any kind. Boat or Truck are both illegal to drive when intoxicated or over 0.08 % alcohol in the blood stream.


So I don't go out and get drunk and drive anymore. If I'm going to drink I do it at home and then go to bed afterwards. Not as much fun as when I was much younger but I still like to have a high ball or two at night.


As for drinking while out fishing in the boat that's just not me anymore. I enjoy fishing enough and don't need to get drunk while out on the water in my boat.

I see way too many people driving boats too fast in speed reduction areas that are more than likely three sheets to the wind and don't give a **** about the rules.

The only time I want to be around a drunk is when I'm drunk too. That way I don't care anymore if they are drunk or not. But when I'm sober that last thing I want in my boat is a drunk. The last time I went fishing with a guy who insisted on bring along a six pack with him after he arrived drunk I didn't have a lot of fun. I've put him on the list of people who will never get into my boat again. He was a friend of one of my neighbors and a known alcoholic. Heck I figured out that he was the brother of one of the women that I worked for as a college student and he was a drunk back then. That was over 40 years ago. He was not a bad guy but he was not a good drunk either.

People can behave differently when drinking. Some guys are funny and fun to be around even when they drink. Others get really nasty and want to fight.

I fish to get outside and have fun. I do that to get out of the house and I enjoy nature when I'm out on the water. I'd much rather be out on KY lake in the 1950s when one hardly ever saw another boat in the middle of the week all day long. Give me that wilderness any day over a crowded city. Nothing ruins KY more than a bunch of drunk boaters going every which way on the water and bussing a guy crappie fishing out on the main river channel. combine that with a bunch of drunk jet skiers and you have one big mess at Patoka Lake on a Summer Sunday Afternoon. No thanks. That's not my style anymore. Hopefully those kids will grow up someday and realize that one doesn't have to get boozed up to have fun.

IMHO two things make people do things that they normally would not do out on the water. Drinking and fishing tournaments where there is big money to be won or lost. With drinking being the bigger problem.

I'm glad that we have CO's here in IN that go out on the water in their patrol boat and check on boaters to make sure that they are not drinking and driving their boat.

Heck we have a Evansville City Councilman (now President of the City Council) who was arrested for drinking and driving his boat on KY lake last year. He didn't look to well in his Police Booking Jail picture either. He was still smiling when they took his picture for the police files. Just google "John Friend" and see the picture for yourself. Ha ha.

Heck I'll just save you the trouble and post a link here:

http://www.courierpress.com/news/201...d-arrested-ke/

Ok so I was wondering if it's legal to drink a few beers while fishing the bank on a river or lake. When I mean a few I mean a 6 pack or less. Would that be considered public intoxication or what? I know the laws regarding boating and drinking. I see no harm in drinking on the bank unless I was to leave my garbage behind or had a few to many and decided to drive. Me and a buddy went back and forth on it but I believe that if caught by wardens they would write a citation. Any thoughts fellas?

[TimE]

I did a ride along with a kyfw officer and he gave me some excellent advice. He told me "I always know the answer to the question that I am about to ask someone." He went on to tell me if he sees people on the river bank he dont just stroll up on them without watching them from a distance to see exactly what they are doing. He will watch the individuals actions to get a feel about who may cause him problems and how many people there really are and what they are actually doing. So generally if a CO rolls up on you they know already what you are doing and lying to them only makes it 100 times worse.

And he can take his binos and a quarter to a pawn shop and trade them for a used fork? Sad that the guy you rode along with won't bother the northern boaters flagrantly violating Ky laws, but let him have a shot a couple riverbank hicks = easy quota?

If only Lake Cumberland could be blessed with that CO and a poster in this thread during the poker run bash, hell the Ky Derby would be easy pickins for some if it's that easy.

[zx150]

Well everyone is different. The guys I work with on a regular basis would lock someone up for a minor offense if they lie as a pose to a ticket or warning for the truth