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    The Koch Brothers need to be demonized for what they do not only for who they are. They are bad for America. They are selfish and greedy and don't have all American's best interest in mind. We don't need anyone like them running this country in any shape or form. They are buying the election process with millions of dollars and that's not the way a Democracy should operate. Voters not money should rule in a democracy.

    It's people like the Koch brothers that are holding back new forms of energy like Fuel Cells. Have you not read anything that I said about Fuel Cell Technology in these forums. You are saying exactly what I have been saying for years now.

    We need to start developing all other forms of energy resources before we run out of fossil fuels.

    And anyone who thinks that we can burn the amounts of fossil fuels we have been burning and not have an adverse effect on our planet is Crazy. IMHO

    We need regulations. Without it our planet and our heath would suffer even more than it does now. I guess you must be too young to remember what the USA looked like before the USEPA was formed. There was a reason we formed the USEPA. And it was started under President Nixon who was a REPUBLICAN for god sakes. Even Nixon new we had to have regulations to protect our water and air resources from the greedy corporations that only care about their bottom line.

    We would have Corporations and City's dumping human waste right into the River and Creeks without any treatment and that's not acceptable to me or the vast majority of Americans.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom523 View Post
    Actually a majority of geoscientists (sic) do not agree that humans are creating a global warming crisis. So if you are listening to the elite educated scientists the you wouldn't believe it either. It appears that you are believing the ramblings of the political left instead. I can see by your post that you mention the Koch brothers and CNN. This is the left's way of demonizing the Koch brothers which are conservative. Keep the politics out of it and look at the science to find the real truth. Fuel cell technology and alternate forms of energy should be developed. What do you think of this idea. Keep our economy strong by using fossil fuels while at the same time developing alternate forms of energy. When the technology cycle ends for fossil fuels alternate forms of energy will be developed to maturity and be more cost efficient for industry which would make it a good business decision to switch to them instead of oil and coal. Right now we are closing coal fired plants and China is building them. Their economy is boomong and ours is collapsing under the pressure of over regulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    The Koch Brothers need to be demonized for what they do not only for who they are. They are bad for America. They are selfish and greedy and don't have all American's best interest in mind. We don't need anyone like them running this country in any shape or form. They are buying the election process with millions of dollars and that's not the way a Democracy should operate. Voters not money should rule in a democracy.

    It's people like the Koch brothers that are holding back new forms of energy like Fuel Cells. Have you not read anything that I said about Fuel Cell Technology in these forums. You are saying exactly what I have been saying for years now.

    We need to start developing all other forms of energy resources before we run out of fossil fuels.

    And anyone who thinks that we can burn the amounts of fossil fuels we have been burning and not have an adverse effect on our planet is Crazy. IMHO

    We need regulations. Without it our planet and our heath would suffer even more than it does now. I guess you must be too young to remember what the USA looked like before the USEPA was formed. There was a reason we formed the USEPA. And it was started under President Nixon who was a REPUBLICAN for god sakes. Even Nixon new we had to have regulations to protect our water and air resources from the greedy corporations that only care about their bottom line.

    We would have Corporations and City's dumping human waste right into the River and Creeks without any treatment and that's not acceptable to me or the vast majority of Americans.
    Dude you are seriously twisted in your hate for republicans. Read what you typed!! Are you actually stating that only republicans have money??? What??? So tell us which "poor" liberal is best for the country?? Which one?? Obama? Pelosi? Clinton? Sorry...All millionaires.
    How about some of the huge corporations and unions that back both parties?? The more you state your opinion the more I see how hate filled you really are. No one is right but you, Obama and the liberals....My gosh man......really???? You think the Koch brothers are selfish and greedy which implies that no liberals are.....Hahahahaha I say again your a lost puppy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    The Koch Brothers need to be demonized for what they do not only for who they are. They are bad for America. They are selfish and greedy and don't have all American's best interest in mind. We don't need anyone like them running this country in any shape or form. They are buying the election process with millions of dollars and that's not the way a Democracy should operate. Voters not money should rule in a democracy.

    It's people like the Koch brothers that are holding back new forms of energy like Fuel Cells. Have you not read anything that I said about Fuel Cell Technology in these forums. You are saying exactly what I have been saying for years now.

    We need to start developing all other forms of energy resources before we run out of fossil fuels.

    And anyone who thinks that we can burn the amounts of fossil fuels we have been burning and not have an adverse effect on our planet is Crazy. IMHO

    We need regulations. Without it our planet and our heath would suffer even more than it does now. I guess you must be too young to remember what the USA looked like before the USEPA was formed. There was a reason we formed the USEPA. And it was started under President Nixon who was a REPUBLICAN for god sakes. Even Nixon new we had to have regulations to protect our water and air resources from the greedy corporations that only care about their bottom line.

    We would have Corporations and City's dumping human waste right into the River and Creeks without any treatment and that's not acceptable to me or the vast majority of Americans.
    First, You have proven that older doesn't necessarily mean wiser. I know regulations are needed for the country to maintaining healthy air and water quality standards. I grew up in Pittsburgh when it was known as the "Smokey City". I could write my name in the soot from the open hearths on the cars when I delivered papers in the morning. I fished in the Monongahela river for catfish that we couldn't eat because of the oil pollution in the water from the barges. The river is clean and a variety of fish can be caught and the air is clean now because of regulations. That doesn't mean there wasn't alot of pain that the residents of the city had to go through. During the 80's, there was a mass exodus from there because of the Steel Mills closing and good paying jobs were gone. Pittsburgh went from a blue collar town to a white collar town in the last 30 years. We need clean air and water but the government should work with industry towards that goal to mitigate the impact on our economy. Second, why should the Koch brothers be demonized and not the wealthy democratic donors? You want to demonize them but are not saying a **** thing about the democrat billionaires that influence politics even more than the Koch brothers. Your claim that you are just concerned about the environment and big money influencing politics is just a cloak for your partisan rantings. If you were really concerned about it you would take your blinders off and look at the big picture. Look at Michael Bloomburg's $50 million dollar anti gun campaign for example. The Koch brothers are #59 on the top political donors list. I think you have 58 people to demonize before you get to them. Start early the election is in November.
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    I think you have the Koch brothers confused with Obama

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