Supreme Court just ruled FOR Hobby Lobby.

[Hlleonard]

I'm all for castration of multiple dead wood dads, and sterialization for third time un wed moms.

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Hmmm... so you don't want to live in America anymore?

[Hlleonard]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5070279.html

Religious convictions.... sure...

[DJD]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5070279.html

Religious convictions.... sure...

hahahaha that sure could put them in a bad light. In the world of politics and big business there are very few rules that apply.....They got what they wanted regardless of this article. I wonder if they are gong to fix this? If they don't after all this is out then they deserve what comes their way.

[Hlleonard]

Is this what "yea baby" means Mr. Fisher?... You seem to be a great believer in 'do away with the welfare system' so in that vein your tickled that a company can deny it's employees birth control based on their bottom line.... I mean religious belief, so it seems you would like to see more kids born into food stamps instead of less...

This is a copy and paste from an article written after the supreme court decision...

“Other closely held companies now have a license to harm their employees in the name of the company’s religion,” she said. “If companies qualify, they can use this decision to make the same claim.”

[psprowler]

How many large cap mutual funds don't include Pfizer or a handful of the other big player drug manufacturers?

[Hlleonard]

How many large cap mutual funds don't include Pfizer or a handful of the other big player drug manufacturers?

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Don't know anything about fund managing but it seems there are options...

In their Supreme Court complaint, Hobby Lobby's owners chronicle the many ways in which they avoid entanglements with objectionable companies. Hobby Lobby stores do not sell shot glasses, for example, and the Greens decline requests from beer distributors to back-haul beer on Hobby Lobby trucks.
Similar options exist for companies that want to practice what's sometimes called faith-based investing. To avoid supporting companies that manufacture abortion drugs—or products such as alcohol or pornography—religious investors can turn to a cottage industry of mutual funds that screen out stocks that religious people might consider morally objectionable. The Timothy Plan and the Ave Maria Fund, for example, screen for companies that manufacture abortion drugs, support Planned Parenthood, or engage in embryonic stem cell research. Dan Hardt, a Kentucky financial planner who specializes in faith-based investing, says the performances of these funds are about the same as if they had not been screened. But Hobby Lobby's managers either were not aware of these options or chose not to invest in them.

[GeoFisher]

Is this what "yea baby" means Mr. Fisher?... You seem to be a great believer in 'do away with the welfare system' so in that vein your tickled that a company can deny it's employees birth control based on their bottom line.... I mean religious belief, so it seems you would like to see more kids born into food stamps instead of less...

This is a copy and paste from an article written after the supreme court decision...

“Other closely held companies now have a license to harm their employees in the name of the company’s religion,” she said. “If companies qualify, they can use this decision to make the same claim.”

Do you even have an idea of what PERSONAL responsibility means.

[Hlleonard]

Hmmm... this is an opinion, not mine but somebodys. you recon there could be any truth in it?

This isn't the only example of Hobby Lobby's rank hypocrisy.
1. Long before Obamacare, 28 states mandated contraceptives be included in all heath insurance policies:
Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Rhode Island, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin
http://www.guttmacher.org/statecenter/spibs/spib_I...
2. Hobby Lobby is in every one of those states and is already supplying contraceptive coverage to its employees.
3. If Hobby Lobby is so concerned about contraceptive coverage, why didn't they sue the States that require them to provide contraceptive coverage?
The majority of the other plaintiffs are in states that require contraception. Why didn't they sue?
4. Here's the thing that gives away the game:
Two of the plaintiffs were in states that DIDN'T required contraception and they yet those companies STILL provided contraceptive coverage, because it was a better and cheaper plan!!!! (Insurance companies know contraception is cheaper than pregnancies.)
Likewise, Romney Care required contraception coverage and Massachusetts is the second most Catholic State in the country and nobody sued the State. Finally, the VA also provides contraceptive care with tax payer's money and no one sued the VA.
Bottom Line: This is an example of "Situational Ethics." These people turn their moral outrage on and off based who is in Office, how much the insurance costs and what party passed the law. That's not my definition of "deeply held moral belief."

[GeoFisher]

Hmmm... this is an opinion, not mine but somebodys. you recon there could be any truth in it?

This isn't the only example of Hobby Lobby's rank hypocrisy.
1. Long before Obamacare, 28 states mandated contraceptives be included in all heath insurance policies:
Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Rhode Island, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin
http://www.guttmacher.org/statecenter/spibs/spib_I...
2. Hobby Lobby is in every one of those states and is already supplying contraceptive coverage to its employees.
3. If Hobby Lobby is so concerned about contraceptive coverage, why didn't they sue the States that require them to provide contraceptive coverage?
The majority of the other plaintiffs are in states that require contraception. Why didn't they sue?
4. Here's the thing that gives away the game:
Two of the plaintiffs were in states that DIDN'T required contraception and they yet those companies STILL provided contraceptive coverage, because it was a better and cheaper plan!!!! (Insurance companies know contraception is cheaper than pregnancies.)
Likewise, Romney Care required contraception coverage and Massachusetts is the second most Catholic State in the country and nobody sued the State. Finally, the VA also provides contraceptive care with tax payer's money and no one sued the VA.
Bottom Line: This is an example of "Situational Ethics." These people turn their moral outrage on and off based who is in Office, how much the insurance costs and what party passed the law. That's not my definition of "deeply held moral belief."

DUDE.

Stop regurgitating the same silly ********, and read something. actually freakin READ IT.

Hobby Lobby covers every single contraceptive out there. They don't cover MURDER PILLS and IUD's. Read why they don't and you will understand the case.

YOU sound like every other ignorant low information voter on the LEFT.

GOOD GOD. Now I better go mainline my blood pressure medicine.......

Later,

Geo

[Hlleonard]

Do you even have an idea of what PERSONAL responsibility means.

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You do realize that you being judgmental of people based on what they should or should not do makes zero difference on the birthrate but access to birth control (in whatever form) actually does don't you?

[GeoFisher]

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You do realize that you being judgmental of people based on what they should or should not do makes zero difference on the birthrate but access to birth control (in whatever form) actually does don't you?

No I'm not.

I don't give two shits about the birth rate. It is YOUR responsibility to manage YOUR choices with birth. NOT the gubments.

It is a really ignorant argument that " I got pregnant because the gubment didn't give me birth control".

now go un - ignorant yourself.

Later,

Geo

[Hlleonard]

No I'm not.

I don't give two shits about the birth rate. It is YOUR responsibility to manage YOUR choices with birth. NOT the gubments.

It is a really ignorant argument that " I got pregnant because the gubment didn't give me birth control".

now go un - ignorant yourself.

Later,

Geo

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HA... careful Mr. fisher, getting your blood pressure up isn't good for your health...