Sen Luger (R) says going to war in Iraq mistake

[TimE]

http://www.courierpress.com/opinion/...-past_12593606

After his forced retirement Senator Richard Lugar no longer has to toe the Party Line and tell lies. He's speaking from his heart and finally admitting that the war in Iraq was a huge mistake. There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and Bush/Cheaney and the war hawks mislead him and others into voting for the war Iraq.

The truth will set you free!

http://www.courierpress.com/opinion/...-past_12593606

If only I didn't truly feel sorry for you. I honestly try not to laugh at your posts but sometimes "you totally redeem yourself".

[know1]

I never thought fighting Iraq over 9/11 made any sense at all. It felt like cleaning up unfinished business from his father's Presidency.

[GeoFisher]

I never thought fighting Iraq over 9/11 made any sense at all. It felt like cleaning up unfinished business from his father's Presidency.

Yet the ENTIRE world thought it was a good idea.

It is done, water under the bridge.

I'm more concerned with the MESS that is there now. IRAQ will be forever a thorn in our ass. If someone doesn't step up in that part of the world we will really have a mess.

Mark my words. We will be there again this decade.....

Later,

Geo

[kygorski]

if rand paul is elected, were almost out of the middle east. Fortress americana!!!

[Moveon]

“If presented with that same evidence today, I would vote the same way,” McCain said of his vote to deploy troops in the country. “I respected and trusted the Secretary of State, Colin Powell. But it’s obvious now, in retrospect, that Saddam Hussein – although he had used weapons of mass destruction – did not have the inventory that we seem to have evidence of. Which now looking back on it, with the benefit of hindsight, (the evidence) was very flimsy.”


Now even John McCain says that the evidence that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction was "VERY FLIMSY".

I don't care what you all say the war in Iraq was a Mistake and a Big Mistake made by the GOP and Bush.

You can bash people all you want but it won't change the facts! I think that most neutral people now see that there was a huge mistake going into Iraq.

Lugar, McCain and Bush Senior all said not to go into Iraq but Little Bush didn't listen to his elders.

The mistake is still a problem today with all the fighting in Iraq today. Once you stir up the Hornets next and take out the leader it's expected that the remaining hornets are going to swarm and attack everything in sight.

All Bush Jr did was stir up the Hornets next in the Middle East. He should have figured out that after three or more Crusades in to the Middle East by the Western Powers that it was not wise to repeat their many mistakes.

And furthermore. I do think that what Joe Biden said should have been taken more seriously. They should divide up Iraq into three sectors. Give the Sunni's one section, the Shia one and the Kurds the last one. That makes more sence than trying to combine them all into one country when they have been fighting each other for thousands of years.

[Moveon]

If only I didn't truly feel sorry for you. I honestly try not to laugh at your posts but sometimes "you totally redeem yourself".

I feel the same way about you and all those that are blinded by Fixed News Corp and their friends. How could anyone let some big fat guy from England control so much of what they think? I mean didn't we fight two wars to rid ourselves of British Control over the Colonies?

My point was that Richard Lugar is saying that he made a mistake based on false and untrue information give to the US Senate by the Bush administration. Heck Bush even made fun of the fact that he could find no weapons of mass destruction. And Chaney is probably still talking about Iraqi nukes riding on missile tips that can reach the Continental USA. If you don't remember him saying or implying that then you were asleep at the wheel.

If anyone thinks that going in and taking Saddam out of Iraq was a good thing then they must really like Iran. Because it the Iranians who are in control of the Iraqi Government now. Do you all remember when we backed Saddam in his war with Iran? Now we are backing Iran I guess. Iran the one Middle Eastern Country that is closest to getting Nuclear Weapons of Mass Destruction. Of course Pakistan being there already along with North Korea. I guess you all favor nuclear weapons being spread around the Middle East? And don't think that Saudi Arabia won't get Nukes from Pakistan if Iran goes nuclear.

Now after Iraq battled Iran to a standstill years back Iran is in control of the Present Iraqi government. And the Sunni Muslins that were Saddam's friends have taken over most all the Western and Northern Parts of Iraq. Civil war is going on there all because of what Bush did. While I agree that Saddam was a ruthless dictator I despise the Iranians even more. They are as radical as anyone out there and they were the ones who captured and displayed our American Diplomats for almost a year. I watched that unfold on the evening news daily for almost an entire year. They were blindfolded and keep in the dark almost the entire time. We should have declared war on Iran at the time and take them out of the picture. All Iraq ever did was shoot a French Missile at one of our destroyers in the Gulf and almost sink it. But they apologized for that mistake.

Now don't get me wrong here. I was all for Bush Sr. going into Kuwait and kicking the Iraqi's out of that country. But when Bush Sr. sent in US troops including US Military Women he upset Bin Laden and helped to turn Al Qaeda against the US. Before that Al Qaeda was Rumsfeld's friend and we gave them shoulder fired guided short range missile to use against the Russians in Afghanistan.

[GeoFisher]

I feel the same way about you and all those that are blinded by Fixed News Corp and their friends. How could anyone let some big fat guy from England control so much of what they think? I mean didn't we fight two wars to rid ourselves of British Control over the Colonies?

My point was that Richard Lugar is saying that he made a mistake based on false and untrue information give to the US Senate by the Bush administration. Heck Bush even made fun of the fact that he could find no weapons of mass destruction. And Chaney is probably still talking about Iraqi nukes riding on missile tips that can reach the Continental USA. If you don't remember him saying or implying that then you were asleep at the wheel.

If anyone thinks that going in and taking Saddam out of Iraq was a good thing then they must really like Iran. Because it the Iranians who are in control of the Iraqi Government now. Do you all remember when we backed Saddam in his war with Iran? Now we are backing Iran I guess. Iran the one Middle Eastern Country that is closest to getting Nuclear Weapons of Mass Destruction. Of course Pakistan being there already along with North Korea. I guess you all favor nuclear weapons being spread around the Middle East? And don't think that Saudi Arabia won't get Nukes from Pakistan if Iran goes nuclear.

Now after Iraq battled Iran to a standstill years back Iran is in control of the Present Iraqi government. And the Sunni Muslins that were Saddam's friends have taken over most all the Western and Northern Parts of Iraq. Civil war is going on there all because of what Bush did. While I agree that Saddam was a ruthless dictator I despise the Iranians even more. They are as radical as anyone out there and they were the ones who captured and displayed our American Diplomats for almost a year. I watched that unfold on the evening news daily for almost an entire year. They were blindfolded and keep in the dark almost the entire time. We should have declared war on Iran at the time and take them out of the picture. All Iraq ever did was shoot a French Missile at one of our destroyers in the Gulf and almost sink it. But they apologized for that mistake.

Now don't get me wrong here. I was all for Bush Sr. going into Kuwait and kicking the Iraqi's out of that country. But when Bush Sr. sent in US troops including US Military Women he upset Bin Laden and helped to turn Al Qaeda against the US. Before that Al Qaeda was Rumsfeld's friend and we gave them shoulder fired guided short range missile to use against the Russians in Afghanistan.

If that dirt bag sum bitch Obama would have gotten a status of forces agreement, LIKE HE SHOULD HAVE, Iran would be the simple goat herders they were when BUSH gave Obama the reigns.

Instead

Obama FUBAR'd IRAQ,
Obama FUBAR'd Afghanistan,
Obama FUBAR'd Syria,
Obama FUBAR'd Egypt
Obama FUBAR'd the Ukranian Crisis
Obama FUBAR'd Libya.

Yea Obama is one gigantic FUBAR.......and when you understand that, you will stop blaming Bush and Fox News. Form someone who supposed to be so "smart", you come off not so......

Later,

Geo

[Moveon]

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;536402]If that dirt bag sum bitch Obama would have gotten a status of forces agreement, LIKE HE SHOULD HAVE, Iran would be the simple goat herders they were when BUSH gave Obama the reigns.

Instead
All the real smart people tell me that it was Bush's fault not Obama's Fault. I'll just leave it at that. So how does that make you feel that you are so wrong? Do you hate our President that much that you would do anything or say almost anything to try to discredit him? I really do feel sorry for people that do that. You may want to check your BP once in a while and calm down.

BTW: Obama listens to his Military Commanders. Bush Jr should have listened to his Wise GOP father George Bush Sr when the Sr. told the Jr. not to go into Iraq. Father knows best!

Lugar has finally admitted to his mistake and so have a lot of other Senators who were hood winked into voting for the Second War in Iraq. We should have been going after Bin Laden in Afghanistan instead of fooling around with Iraq.

Now Iran has more control over Iraq that ever before.

Iraq will end up being divided by ethnic area and religious beliefs just as President Clinton Proposed years ago. Or maybe it was President Carter. Current CIA people are on TV shows saying the very same thing. And George, I pretty sure that those CIA guys and President George Bush Sr. are a lot Smarter than YOU!

So who's really showing their ignorance in here? It's not me, that's for sure!

OBAMA GOT BIN LADEN !!!! Bush could not even find him let along capture or kill him. Although I guess he tried and failed many times. And that's giving him the benefit of the doubt. I figured Bin Laden was in Pakistan all along. He would have been fooling to stay in Afghanistan with all the American Troops there and the Drones. No he knew how to blend in with the Pakistani Civilian Population where he thought he would be safe from air attacks and our special forces. But he was wrong too.

LATER,

[GeoFisher]

[QUOTE=Moveon;536412]

Iraq will end up being divided by ethnic area and religious beliefs just as President Clinton Proposed years ago. Or maybe it was President Carter. Current CIA people are on TV shows saying the very same thing. And George, I pretty sure that those CIA guys and President George Bush Sr. are a lot Smarter than YOU!


LATER,

I actually think the first time I heard it was Joe Biden.

In reality that area had been split along ethnic lines for a long time.

HOW about you simply stop responding to my posts.....PLEASE.

[DJD]

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;536420]

I actually think the first time I heard it was Joe Biden.

In reality that area had been split along ethnic lines for a long time.

HOW about you simply stop responding to my posts.....PLEASE.

Like I have heard several times...your wasting your breath. This man/woman is so full of Bush hate that to he/she Bush is still potus. The fact that Obama is the sitting potus means nothing to him/her. All he /she wants to do is rehash history. Sad and pitiful......many many times he/she stops in drops bombs and leaves once he/she feels cornered. I'm guessing he/she runs and searches the internet for more bomb material and to check facts of stated opposition to his bombs.

[kyfanatic]

Wonder where all those Chemical Weapons they found in Syria came from

[kyfanatic]

Obama releases the Leader of ISIS a couple years ago from Guatanamo Bay and look at what they are doing in Iraq,the Islamic extremists are killing Christians for being Christian,taking their property they worked for and threatening to mutilate thousands of woman from age 13 to 60 in the name of allah.Yet some progressives still spew that Conservatives have a war on women. The real War on Humanity is Obama and his Muslim Administration funding and aiding the Islamic Crusade on the world with Our Tax Dollars.
Today in Washington DC a Marine Veteran Hero was beaten senseless by Pro-Hamas Protestors, while everyone has their head turned ,watching the millions of Criminal Illegals pouring across our southern border,Obama is sneaking in Thousands of Islamic Extremists coming to a neighborhood near you,better get your wives a Burka now boys,Sharia Law fr everyone