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    are you secure?

    OK you have 3 weapons, one in your car, two in the house, ready for bear. your neighbor is equally armed. You live in gated sub division, fear of home invasion is nil. The other side of town, not the same. BUT they are also armed, butthey are a "criminal" element according to your estimate.In the middle is a police force. They feel ALL of you are wackos. Right now if I toot my horn to wake up a cell phoner at a light, will he wave, or get out and shoot? The seventh day adventice at my door, or is a home invader? This second amendment didn't come into being in the last 10 years, but now its becoming extreme.You NEED to have a weapon, because EVERYONE does. My parents didn't. My in laws didn't. My married childrens in laws didn't. How about your mom and dad. Not sporting arms, personal weapons, for self defense.My kid think I'm a wacko cause of the guns, think about it. we are becoming a paranoid country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    OK you have 3 weapons, one in your car, two in the house, ready for bear. your neighbor is equally armed. You live in gated sub division, fear of home invasion is nil. The other side of town, not the same. BUT they are also armed, butthey are a "criminal" element according to your estimate.In the middle is a police force. They feel ALL of you are wackos. Right now if I toot my horn to wake up a cell phoner at a light, will he wave, or get out and shoot? The seventh day adventice at my door, or is a home invader? This second amendment didn't come into being in the last 10 years, but now its becoming extreme.You NEED to have a weapon, because EVERYONE does. My parents didn't. My in laws didn't. My married childrens in laws didn't. How about your mom and dad. Not sporting arms, personal weapons, for self defense.My kid think I'm a wacko cause of the guns, think about it. we are becoming a paranoid country.
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    I don't have a problem with gun ownership, have never in 69 years felt I needed a defensive weapon outside of vietnam... There is a handgun here someplace but I couldn't find it and any ammo for it if I needed it in a hurry... The thing about guns is the hype gun owners are always preaching about, I do not believe guns make the average citizen of this country feel safer... There are about one third of the people in this country that own guns, that makes two thirds that do not own guns... I do not believe we as a country "feel safer" because of gun ownership and the crime/murder rate in this country that is chocked full of guns seems to bear that out.... An individual that has access to a firearm might feel more secure whether or not he/she actually is....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
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    I don't have a problem with gun ownership, have never in 69 years felt I needed a defensive weapon outside of vietnam... There is a handgun here someplace but I couldn't find it and any ammo for it if I needed it in a hurry... The thing about guns is the hype gun owners are always preaching about, I do not believe guns make the average citizen of this country feel safer... There are about one third of the people in this country that own guns, that makes two thirds that do not own guns... I do not believe we as a country "feel safer" because of gun ownership and the crime/murder rate in this country that is chocked full of guns seems to bear that out.... An individual that has access to a firearm might feel more secure whether or not he/she actually is....
    Sheeple. I hope you never need a weapon, because you will WISH you had it.

    DEAD people cannot defend themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    Sheeple. I hope you never need a weapon, because you will WISH you had it.

    DEAD people cannot defend themselves.
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    You are correct for maybe the first time Mr. Fisher but I see your argument ran out of air and you had to resort to insults as the right wing seems to always revert to...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
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    You are correct for maybe the first time Mr. Fisher but I see your argument ran out of air and you had to resort to insults as the right wing seems to always revert to...
    What was insulting, calling you sheeple?.....

    You do aimlessly follow the leftist drum beat, so tell me how that is insulting. Unless you're insulted by the fact that I pointed out your sheeple behavior....

    Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    What was insulting, calling you sheeple?.....

    You do aimlessly follow the leftist drum beat, so tell me how that is insulting. Unless you're insulted by the fact that I pointed out your sheeple behavior....

    Oh well.
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    Most people don't follow anybody aimlessly with the exception of the right wing Limbaugh heads and I suspect you meant "sheeple" as an insult beings it seems to be a derogatory name used for anybody who might not see eye to eye with the person throwing the insult..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
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    Most people don't follow anybody aimlessly with the exception of the right wing Limbaugh heads and I suspect you meant "sheeple" as an insult beings it seems to be a derogatory name used for anybody who might not see eye to eye with the person throwing the insult..
    Rush is an entertainer..........nothing else. He is bat **** crazy on quite a few issues, spot on with others.

    I don't know too many folks on the right who follow anyone. I agree with plans and policies, but the minute they don't agree with my values.....I"m ready to ditch them.

    If Grimes had even half a brain and and if she wasn't completely in bed with Democrats, she'd actually have a chance. As it is........there are quite a few republicans who are going to hold their nose, and pull the lever for Mitch.

    I'd much rather someone besides Mitch, but NEVER that leftist Grimes........NEVER.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    OK you have 3 weapons, one in your car, two in the house, ready for bear. your neighbor is equally armed. You live in gated sub division, fear of home invasion is nil. The other side of town, not the same. BUT they are also armed, butthey are a "criminal" element according to your estimate.In the middle is a police force. They feel ALL of you are wackos. Right now if I toot my horn to wake up a cell phoner at a light, will he wave, or get out and shoot? The seventh day adventice at my door, or is a home invader? This second amendment didn't come into being in the last 10 years, but now its becoming extreme.You NEED to have a weapon, because EVERYONE does. My parents didn't. My in laws didn't. My married childrens in laws didn't. How about your mom and dad. Not sporting arms, personal weapons, for self defense.My kid think I'm a wacko cause of the guns, think about it. we are becoming a paranoid country.
    The most incoherent post of complete moronic nonsense I have ever read on this site. Sounds like ramblings of a complete mental case. It doesn't even make sense.............none of it. Dude back off the prozac............
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    yer right

    Quote Originally Posted by mhall View Post
    The most incoherent post of complete moronic nonsense I have ever read on this site. Sounds like ramblings of a complete mental case. It doesn't even make sense.............none of it. Dude back off the prozac............
    Now I have to call my cousin and see what we were talking about. I guess what I was trying to say, the more guns out there, the less safe I feel.

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    oooops

    I was on the phone at the time I had that brain fart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    OK you have 3 weapons, one in your car, two in the house, ready for bear. your neighbor is equally armed. You live in gated sub division, fear of home invasion is nil. The other side of town, not the same. BUT they are also armed, butthey are a "criminal" element according to your estimate.In the middle is a police force. They feel ALL of you are wackos. Right now if I toot my horn to wake up a cell phoner at a light, will he wave, or get out and shoot? The seventh day adventice at my door, or is a home invader? This second amendment didn't come into being in the last 10 years, but now its becoming extreme.You NEED to have a weapon, because EVERYONE does. My parents didn't. My in laws didn't. My married childrens in laws didn't. How about your mom and dad. Not sporting arms, personal weapons, for self defense.My kid think I'm a wacko cause of the guns, think about it. we are becoming a paranoid country.
    Well again I see it differently. Guns became an issue because Liberals made it one!!! It's Sensational news when a person shoots 3,5,10 or 20 people but it's only big news if it's not taking place in the hood. While it is true that some horrific shootings happen by the hands of some crazy person but wanna bet that more people were killed in cities where the most strict gun control laws exist that same year than all the sensational news shooting combined that year?? Why not make it illegal to shoot others? Ohhh? It is illegal to do that....how about make it illegal to murder others!!! Ohhh hmmm that's illegal too. Well make it illegal for felons to own guns legally...that should work right?? Huh?? That's already illegal??? But Massa obama said that if they could control law abiding citizens nothing bad would happen any mores....ever! Just back his gun control policies and all those means people would abide by the law!!! Idiot.....we have enough gun laws. What we don't have are leaders who make things happen. Economy's in the cities with the biggest deaths by shootings stats are usually bad. Usually filled with blacks. Usually filled with drugs and welfare recipients. Maybe there is a correlation? Hmmmm my uneducated, redneck, gun toting mind says YES there is a huge connection. Now remind me which party talks like they are this part of the USA's biggest supporter and provider? Which party demands the blacks and inner city trash needs to follow them and demonize the other party? Is it fair to say that if you pretend to be the friend of the hood rats shouldn't you also be held responsible for the status of that group?? Well I think we know that answer but the liberal politicans won't agree or admit it. They would rather point the finger at me and say it's my fault because I shouldn't be allowed to own guns as if me owning guns contributes to crazy people shootings or hood rats living out the liberal Hollywood movies scene.

    The gun control politicians who should be experts about guns, magazines, clips, double barrels and ammo are idiots! How many of you have read and watched this dimwits talk about double barrel rifles, automatic weapons or assault rifles and they don't even know what they are saying!?!?? Shouldn't someone who is trying to restrict our rights be a little more educated? Having folks like Feinstein and Biden speaking up and making complete fools of themselves and their cause is supposed to help?

    How do these liberals make that huge leap from law abiding citizens owning guns and not shooting each other daily to having us as the problem for hood rats and crazy people shooting eachother or going postal? How does that make sense?? If we use that logic then all automobiles should be banned look how many accidents happen via autos. Cell phones as well. Maybe drinking should be banned?? Hospitals and the mistakes by doctors kill more each year than idiots shooting up Malls and schools (ok I guessed on that).

    I think those liberals that can't do their **** job wanted to do something more exciting than running the country .......and they felt it would make them look concerned about our well being and get votes. Really??? Why don't you liberals do a little homework? Look at the cities controlled by Liberal politicians and strict gun laws and tell me how well it works to strap more laws on law abiding citizens.

    I grew up up with guns in the house and no one got shot. No one ever came to our door and threatened us either but that gun didn't know. It stayed right were it was left by my dad and never hurt anyone....much like the majority of the guns owned by law abiding citizens. Guns don't think they stay put and only do what the person pulling the trigger makes it do. Maybe we should ban some politicians who are worthless and hide behind one controversy after another and get nothing done but putting panic and guilt on all of us?? I'd like to see Obama, Biden, Feinstein, schumer and Al Gore banned for starters......freaking control freaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    Well again I see it differently. Guns became an issue because Liberals made it one!!! It's Sensational news when a person shoots 3,5,10 or 20 people but it's only big news if it's not taking place in the hood. While it is true that some horrific shootings happen by the hands of some crazy person but wanna bet that more people were killed in cities where the most strict gun control laws exist that same year than all the sensational news shooting combined that year?? Why not make it illegal to shoot others? Ohhh? It is illegal to do that....how about make it illegal to murder others!!! Ohhh hmmm that's illegal too. Well make it illegal for felons to own guns legally...that should work right?? Huh?? That's already illegal??? But Massa obama said that if they could control law abiding citizens nothing bad would happen any mores....ever! Just back his gun control policies and all those means people would abide by the law!!! Idiot.....we have enough gun laws. What we don't have are leaders who make things happen. Economy's in the cities with the biggest deaths by shootings stats are usually bad. Usually filled with blacks. Usually filled with drugs and welfare recipients. Maybe there is a correlation? Hmmmm my uneducated, redneck, gun toting mind says YES there is a huge connection. Now remind me which party talks like they are this part of the USA's biggest supporter and provider? Which party demands the blacks and inner city trash needs to follow them and demonize the other party? Is it fair to say that if you pretend to be the friend of the hood rats shouldn't you also be held responsible for the status of that group?? Well I think we know that answer but the liberal politicans won't agree or admit it. They would rather point the finger at me and say it's my fault because I shouldn't be allowed to own guns as if me owning guns contributes to crazy people shootings or hood rats living out the liberal Hollywood movies scene.

    The gun control politicians who should be experts about guns, magazines, clips, double barrels and ammo are idiots! How many of you have read and watched this dimwits talk about double barrel rifles, automatic weapons or assault rifles and they don't even know what they are saying!?!?? Shouldn't someone who is trying to restrict our rights be a little more educated? Having folks like Feinstein and Biden speaking up and making complete fools of themselves and their cause is supposed to help?

    How do these liberals make that huge leap from law abiding citizens owning guns and not shooting each other daily to having us as the problem for hood rats and crazy people shooting eachother or going postal? How does that make sense?? If we use that logic then all automobiles should be banned look how many accidents happen via autos. Cell phones as well. Maybe drinking should be banned?? Hospitals and the mistakes by doctors kill more each year than idiots shooting up Malls and schools (ok I guessed on that).

    I think those liberals that can't do their **** job wanted to do something more exciting than running the country .......and they felt it would make them look concerned about our well being and get votes. Really??? Why don't you liberals do a little homework? Look at the cities controlled by Liberal politicians and strict gun laws and tell me how well it works to strap more laws on law abiding citizens.

    I grew up up with guns in the house and no one got shot. No one ever came to our door and threatened us either but that gun didn't know. It stayed right were it was left by my dad and never hurt anyone....much like the majority of the guns owned by law abiding citizens. Guns don't think they stay put and only do what the person pulling the trigger makes it do. Maybe we should ban some politicians who are worthless and hide behind one controversy after another and get nothing done but putting panic and guilt on all of us?? I'd like to see Obama, Biden, Feinstein, schumer and Al Gore banned for starters......freaking control freaks.
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    OH come on, quit beating around the bush and tell us how you really feel. Lol

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