amnesty

[DJD]

taxes on higher income will be increased minutely, corporate taxes will be cut, the short fall will come from entitlement spending. healh care education, goverment budgets cut.
immigration, nobahma will grant amnesty to children born here by illegals, nothing will happen till 2016
borders, states will bear thwe greatest cost for border security,they will balk and let the transients pass through.
border states will be encouaged to us guard troops to patrol the borders.[use]
Energy, more federal alnd will be used for more drilling rights, the keystone pipeline will pass. The energy conglomeret will sow down drilling to bring the cost of crude up.LNG terminals will be increased to help us export LNG, this will be partially funded with tax payer money
Budget, A VAT tax will be passed,no major funding for infastrucure,EPA funding will be cut, postal service will be cut.IRS budgets cut, miltary budgets will be under funded COLA will be lowered for SS. More state toll roads. Welfare will be cut,and unemplyment willbe 8%.

Wait a minute?!?!?!? You mean all those shovel ready jobs are done and we are fine now?? Obama was going to fix bridges roads and on and on.....
Postal service has already been cut. What else can they cut? Stores and postal centers have been closed or combined for many years now.

[roadrunner]

taxes on higher income will be increased minutely, corporate taxes will be cut, the short fall will come from entitlement spending. healh care education, goverment budgets cut.
immigration, nobahma will grant amnesty to children born here by illegals, nothing will happen till 2016
borders, states will bear thwe greatest cost for border security,they will balk and let the transients pass through.
border states will be encouaged to us guard troops to patrol the borders.[use]
Energy, more federal alnd will be used for more drilling rights, the keystone pipeline will pass. The energy conglomeret will sow down drilling to bring the cost of crude up.LNG terminals will be increased to help us export LNG, this will be partially funded with tax payer money
Budget, A VAT tax will be passed,no major funding for infastrucure,EPA funding will be cut, postal service will be cut.IRS budgets cut, miltary budgets will be under funded COLA will be lowered for SS. More state toll roads. Welfare will be cut,and unemplyment willbe 8%.

If you cut corporate tax there won't be any short fall there will be more tax revenue this has been proven over and over and over. Even Kennedy knew this.

[GonFishn]

There's always someone, on every site, who takes it upon themselves to play the obnoxious lib and, unfortunately, they tend to ruin an otherwise great bulletin board with their prattling of socialist nonsense. The majority of those of us who've chosen to engage in and enjoy our sport of all things fishing related are naturally conservationists at heart. We're American patriots, for the most part, who believe in the US and the fact that we're a Christian nation, with Christian belief's. We're an open lot with a strong sense of right and wrong and don't truck with those who are not. Unlike the entitled 50% of the country, we are not stupid in our voting beliefs (your own consultants words, not mine). Rather than belabor the point and cry about your freedom of speech, if you don't agree with the tenor of this site then please, by all means, leave it. Don't stick us with a "brad" as on the BFHP site which has essentially ruined that site, nor the strict hurt my feelings censorship of the BBC. We don't need your idiotic stirring of the pot for your own perverse pleasure. In other words, don't let the door hit ya in the arse!

[Hlleonard]

There's always someone, on every site, who takes it upon themselves to play the obnoxious lib and, unfortunately, they tend to ruin an otherwise great bulletin board with their prattling of socialist nonsense. The majority of those of us who've chosen to engage in and enjoy our sport of all things fishing related are naturally conservationists at heart. We're American patriots, for the most part, who believe in the US and the fact that we're a Christian nation, with Christian belief's. We're an open lot with a strong sense of right and wrong and don't truck with those who are not. Unlike the entitled 50% of the country, we are not stupid in our voting beliefs (your own consultants words, not mine). Rather than belabor the point and cry about your freedom of speech, if you don't agree with the tenor of this site then please, by all means, leave it. Don't stick us with a "brad" as on the BFHP site which has essentially ruined that site, nor the strict hurt my feelings censorship of the BBC. We don't need your idiotic stirring of the pot for your own perverse pleasure. In other words, don't let the door hit ya in the arse!

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Hmmm... Maybe you should express your wishes with the moderator and try to get any opinion other than yours banned..... You guys can spend your time patting each other on the butt but it seems to me there are other ideas about how our country should be run and for your information you have included a great many US citizens in your "entitled" 50% who are hard working people who do not leach off the government just like your (loser) hero did.. Maybe you should educate yourself about just who is included in Mr. Romneys 47%

[kygorski]

What did your post have to do with amnesty? When the heck is anyone going to even try to figure out a solution? You guys DONT want a solution. Sure I'm tagged as a liberal, but I really don't know any liberals who hire these illegals. These god christian god fearing tillers of the earth, brought most of these guys here.And most of them didnt care if they were legal or not, just get the baccy picked, and git. I wouldn't work that job, no matter the money. BUT for years it was done, how? Smaller farms,using and helping neighbors. I talked to a lot of old folks who did it, and it wasn't the road to riches, but a nice bit of seasonal work.I said before we had latino workers in the steel mills in the 40's, they paid taxes, they paid social security, they paid into the economy here, not home in mexico or guatemala or where ever.This problem is only about 30 years old.

[kygorski]

I'm sorry to say this, but the truth hurts. The idea of bringing cheap migrant workers to harvest our crops,has been praised in the words affordable food. IS IT? I'm only going to touch this issue briefly, it will eventually lead to a different country than the one we live in now. Why are there blacks in america? Farm work! like all greasat ideas at the time, it bit us in the ass later. Mexicans, again farm work, but when the crops were picked, were they sent back, by the users? What about the original slave workers, what happened to them? If you got a few minutes, look up LA RAZA, another great bite in the butt. bueuna dias amigos.

[DJD]

No surprise I think Obama is a liar and a fake. This illegal immigration problem wasn't started by him but he bears a ton of responsibility. He has shunned any attempts of states like Arizona to start fixing the problem. The illegals are HIS (maybe not the dem party) latest group of people he is willing to use to gain some sort of allegiance from...much like he did with the blacks and tried with the women.
I think some sort of amnesty is coming. I also think every single person who is given amnesty has to pay something (money) to buy their way in. Heck maybe $1000 for each man woman and child and that money goes toward building the "Great Wall of Obama". amnesty without a strict policy and no exceptions taken on future illegals is the only way it will work.
If they make it a priority it can be accomplished. I'm not sure that any politician will step up and do this but I can say this....if Obama who has nothing to lose steps up and actually tries to handle this with some actually substance in his plan I will have some respect for him.
Hell take some Military presence down there and police the thousands of miles of wide open land. Create a military base down there with freaking prisons and arrest the illegals after the cutoff date and make them crush big rocks into little rocks. Make them work on the wall, make them clean the desert from the years of litter all over the place. Many options IF they make it a priority.

[waterdog101]

when you look at the rest of the world, and see how good we have it. have you ever really asked yourself, out of the Billions of people in the world, how was we so lucky to be here. I think we were like the other people, that get into this country any way they can, looking for a better life. our great, great, great Grand Daddys, way back in the day, they came here uninvited and just made themselfs at home, children that are born here, give them Amnesty. thats how we got to call this country home. if America would clean house of all illegal aliens, there wouldn't be anyone left, but a few Native Americans.

[kygorski]

Parts of it were the right idea, what got stuck in my throat was the"get with the law" part.Both partys[employer, and emplyee] broke the law. So both should pay the fines. I agree with the "serve in the armed forces" part. But its pretty hard to join if you are illegal. One country one language. right on!

[GeoFisher]

when you look at the rest of the world, and see how good we have it. have you ever really asked yourself, out of the Billions of people in the world, how was we so lucky to be here. I think we were like the other people, that get into this country any way they can, looking for a better life. our great, great, great Grand Daddys, way back in the day, they came here uninvited and just made themselfs at home, children that are born here, give them Amnesty. thats how we got to call this country home. if America would clean house of all illegal aliens, there wouldn't be anyone left, but a few Native Americans.

I don't think luck has much to do with it, but I understand what you mean.

Later,

Geo

[DJD]

when you look at the rest of the world, and see how good we have it. have you ever really asked yourself, out of the Billions of people in the world, how was we so lucky to be here. I think we were like the other people, that get into this country any way they can, looking for a better life. our great, great, great Grand Daddys, way back in the day, they came here uninvited and just made themselfs at home, children that are born here, give them Amnesty. thats how we got to call this country home. if America would clean house of all illegal aliens, there wouldn't be anyone left, but a few Native Americans.

Well I don't agree with you but nothing new. There is a lot more to this than a broad stroke of the brush saying all of us are illegals. I watched my mom go through the naturalization process. I recently watched my friend at work do it as well and several friends who were born in Scotland. There are millions and millions who did it the right way and many more doing it right now. When my buddy from Sri Lanka did it here in Kentucky it was an emotional thing. He cherished it and was proud. The illegals broke the law and did nothing to pledge their allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. That should mean something to you. It means a hell of a lot to me and my family who served in the Military and we all said the same "I do" when we enlisted. Being an American should not be cheapened by some amnesty act of a guilt free acceptance into our country. They need to pay.

A lot of them don't speak English, they don't care about how we became who we are. From what I have seen in the news many of them don't even care about America...they just like to get free crap and scream we owe them for being hard working. Well news flash not all of them are hard working and not all of them are fine upstanding folks. Many think Mexico is a better place and they want communities of nothing but Mexican speaking folks. No need to learn the language because we don't make them. That's wrong....wanna live here learn the freaking language!!! Press 1 for English??? How about no. How about speak the language or hang up!!!

The illegals who are here with or without kids or kids born here from illegals are illegals iMO. They should all be penalized for breaking the law. Can't arrest them...too many of them. Can't send them back because they would come right back. Can't kill them so what do we do??

How about start with the law....Don't we ever enforce the law anymore?? What's wrong with following the law and not our hearts? I know there is no way we can send back all the illegals but when amnesty happens there has to be a penalty.

The idea of applying the Native American saga to today is unfair. Just like applying the slaves of long ago to today. It's weak, an excuse and I'm sick of hearing about it. There has to be a point when we stop trying to repay any injustices from long long ago. It happened it's over.....the end.

You want to apply some sort of heart felt sentiment?? How about all the military men and women who have died to make this country safe? Where is the heart felt sentiment for them? They did crap tons more for you and me then some illegals who broke the law and sucked off the gubment teat, work tax free and expect our great way of life without lifting a finger to earn their place. Why can't you appreciate them as much as you always pull out your little violin and play sappy tunes about black thugs being killed or illegals getting a free pass. Your on the record a lot of giving in to emotional junk.....I'm not that easy. If someone wants to come here then by God they should pay or do it legally!!! To many wars have been fought, to many people have been killed and to many families have been forever changed so we can live like we do. It wasn't luck...it was blood sweat and tears and you don't seem to understand that.

Luck???? Man that's so closed minded and disrespectful!!

[waterdog101]

Well I don't agree with you but nothing new. There is a lot more to this than a broad stroke of the brush saying all of us are illegals. I watched my mom go through the naturalization process. I recently watched my friend at work do it as well and several friends who were born in Scotland. There are millions and millions who did it the right way and many more doing it right now. When my buddy from Sri Lanka did it here in Kentucky it was an emotional thing. He cherished it and was proud. The illegals broke the law and did nothing to pledge their allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. That should mean something to you. It means a hell of a lot to me and my family who served in the Military and we all said the same "I do" when we enlisted. Being an American should not be cheapened by some amnesty act of a guilt free acceptance into our country. They need to pay.

A lot of them don't speak English, they don't care about how we became who we are. From what I have seen in the news many of them don't even care about America...they just like to get free crap and scream we owe them for being hard working. Well news flash not all of them are hard working and not all of them are fine upstanding folks. Many think Mexico is a better place and they want communities of nothing but Mexican speaking folks. No need to learn the language because we don't make them. That's wrong....wanna live here learn the freaking language!!! Press 1 for English??? How about no. How about speak the language or hang up!!!

The illegals who are here with or without kids or kids born here from illegals are illegals iMO. They should all be penalized for breaking the law. Can't arrest them...too many of them. Can't send them back because they would come right back. Can't kill them so what do we do??

How about start with the law....Don't we ever enforce the law anymore?? What's wrong with following the law and not our hearts? I know there is no way we can send back all the illegals but when amnesty happens there has to be a penalty.

The idea of applying the Native American saga to today is unfair. Just like applying the slaves of long ago to today. It's weak, an excuse and I'm sick of hearing about it. There has to be a point when we stop trying to repay any injustices from long long ago. It happened it's over.....the end.

You want to apply some sort of heart felt sentiment?? How about all the military men and women who have died to make this country safe? Where is the heart felt sentiment for them? They did crap tons more for you and me then some illegals who broke the law and sucked off the gubment teat, work tax free and expect our great way of life without lifting a finger to earn their place. Why can't you appreciate them as much as you always pull out your little violin and play sappy tunes about black thugs being killed or illegals getting a free pass. Your on the record a lot of giving in to emotional junk.....I'm not that easy. If someone wants to come here then by God they should pay or do it legally!!! To many wars have been fought, to many people have been killed and to many families have been forever changed so we can live like we do. It wasn't luck...it was blood sweat and tears and you don't seem to understand that.

Luck???? Man that's so closed minded and disrespectful!!

man, you wrote a book, almost. I do apply heart felt compassion, for anyone that has a hard life. and skin color don't change what I see. I do know what our Armed Forces have done. my Granddad was in WW11 and one of my uncles, my Dad was in Korea, and I joined the Military in 1971. I'm far from being closed minded, I can see back fare enough, to see this country taken from the Native American people that it belonged to. by our forefathers, or illegals which ever name you prefer calling them. that is why I said everyone here, are illegals besides the Native Americans. life is very short, enjoy life and have a little compassion for others. don't be so hung up on the Government tit. that tit helps a lot of needy folks. I work every day and know a lot of guys half my age, feed off the tit you so often refer to. I don't like that, but I try and think of the ones that are helpless and what would they do without the Government assistance, or the tit as you call it. I would much rather see my tax dollars, being spent on Government assistance than being spent on million dollar missiles, when we already have enough weapons to destroy the world many times over.