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Although Mr. Obama is not breaking new ground by using executive powers to carve out a quasi-legal status for certain categories of unauthorized immigrants — the Republican Presidents Dwight D. Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush all did so — his decision will affect as many as five million immigrants, far more than the actions of those presidents.
Your reaching beyond trying to crucify the president for this guys.... just more right wing noise...
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NOB deported a little over 400,000 last year.Lets look at the "law and order" side.The US or the states did not take any packing companys, either beef, pork or chicken.No refuge churches were seized, along with their vechicles. No farms taken over for hiring undocumented workers, and on and on. Yet the p[res. broke the law. Splain dat lucy
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http://www.thenation.com/article/179...nt-us-history#Originally Posted by kygorski
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Deport 400,000 and take in 5 million...........
Yea, I don't like those numbers. Too **** bad you lefties don't understand simple math.
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Geo
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if you read the article, it is a lot more than 400,000 so who don't understand the math. this is a copy from the article, Since taking the oath of office, Obama has deported immigrants at a faster rate than any other president in US history, nearly a record 2 million people.
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I read that he cooked the numbers. I didn't hear the NPR show that explained it but folks are saying his administration counts the simple turning back of illegals at the border as deportation numbers. No other president has done that so those numbers of his appear to be false and misleading.....does that surprise anyone??? Didn't he fix the unemployment numbers as well?
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/n...tatistics.html
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I like the way you said that, { right wing noise } that sounds much better than Republicans crying.
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Haven't been here long enough to know, what do these guys rattle about when we have a republican president?
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It was horrible................
The Lefties are just getting a little payback.
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As usual,half the problem is ignored. If there was no work for them, would they still come? So someone is using illegal employees.I guess that dosn't make sense to conservatives.
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AND I agree with you there........
Shut down the opportunities to work legally and ILLEGALLY and be done with it. But I will tell you this. I know a ton of folks who bitch about Mexicans stealing jobs, and then hire an all Mexican crew to roof their house, or frame there new building, or do their lawn work.
If you want to bitch about the illegal laborers, be ready to pay a premium.
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Geo
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I've been a carpentry subcontractor for over 35 years,worked both residential and commercial jobs.Rough-Framed for Northern Kentucky Homebuilders a lot and was known as one of the top framers in the area.I'll give you a list of HomeBuilders and you can ask yourself,not blowing hotair,stating facts.
I carried Workers Comp,2 million $ in Liablity Insurance,had life and Health Insurance on my employees,paid all occupational licenses and local,state,and federal taxes.
I was a member of the Local,State,and National Home Builders Association and volunteered to teach carpentry skills at ABC classes (Associated Builders and Contractors,Volunteered on many Homes for needy and low income projects.
I also was a member of the Kentucky Association of General Contractors and have done work in Kentucky,Ohio,Indiana,Tennessee,Virginia,New Jersey,California,and Florida as well as on Grand Cayman Island,in the Bahamas,and Jamaica
I cannot tell you the thousands of homesand commercial projects I have had to go back on that Mexicans/Hispanics,Russians,and other foreigners worked on and repair from shoddy craftsmanship,including important structural mistakes that jeopardized the structures.
If these Illegals carried all the Insurance and Trade requirements that I was forced to,do you think their costs would have been cheaper? You get what you pay for,if you want **** slapped on fast and halfassed,that's what you get,but I never saw any Mexicans or otherwise that could outwork,do better quality,than my crew before my injuries.
Funny how we hear how these people work so cheap when they aren't subjected to the same rules and regulations as Americans are,you want to know why Americans have the work ethics they do? Because of Government Regulations and all the BS forced on us that Illegals don't deal with
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