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    60 Minutes

    Its coming on right now and they are going to do a segment on why Odumacare is going to break our country more and there is no way to pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhall View Post
    Its coming on right now and they are going to do a segment on why Odumacare is going to break our country more and there is no way to pay for it.
    Probably ought to call it 180 minutes for this particular episode if that's the topic.........
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    I thought we were already broke.... Wouldn't 10T debt with no plans to pay it off considered broke.... Apparently there is no problem because every president seems to have no problem adding trillions to the debt instead of paying the piper... You guys seem to think the present president is the worst history has had and defend the previous pos in that spot even though he seen fit to double the debt... We will continue doing this until we crumble under the debt if that can happen... Maybe debt don't matter, who knows...

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    we are already in 'panem et circenses' mode. this translates to bread and circuses. it means the politicians give us food and folly so we'll keep voting for them. it was practiced right before the fall of the roman empire to keep the masses happy. same thing is happening today with ebt cards for food and hollywood for folly. and we know which party is supplying that stuff. you better be stocking up for the calamity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
    I thought we were already broke.... Wouldn't 10T debt with no plans to pay it off considered broke.... Apparently there is no problem because every president seems to have no problem adding trillions to the debt instead of paying the piper... You guys seem to think the present president is the worst history has had and defend the previous pos in that spot even though he seen fit to double the debt... We will continue doing this until we crumble under the debt if that can happen... Maybe debt don't matter, who knows...
    you are correct he is the worst in my lifetime he has added more debt in 5 years than all the president put together, I would say this is bad. Obama Care is an 800 billion dollar tax increase and has very little to do with health care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadrunner View Post
    you are correct he is the worst in my lifetime he has added more debt in 5 years than all the president put together, I would say this is bad. Obama Care is an 800 billion dollar tax increase and has very little to do with health care.
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    he has added more debt in 5 years than all the president put together

    Odd how the right wing buys just any BS the fox news fantasies are selling...

    Debt when BO took office..... 10T
    Present debt........................18T

    If you will sir explain just how 18T is double 10T and I believe that is after 6 years... Right wing nuts have been buying this fantasy for a couple years... do you not have the resources to multiply 10x2...

    Now if you multiply the last pos president we had you will be fairly close to a double..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
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    he has added more debt in 5 years than all the president put together

    Odd how the right wing buys just any BS the fox news fantasies are selling...

    Debt when BO took office..... 10T
    Present debt........................18T

    If you will sir explain just how 18T is double 10T and I believe that is after 6 years... Right wing nuts have been buying this fantasy for a couple years... do you not have the resources to multiply 10x2...

    Now if you multiply the last pos president we had you will be fairly close to a double..
    I will play your silly ass game. Bush raised the deficit 4.4 trillion. The Obamunist......7.8 Trillion. GET your **** STRAIGHT. And Obama still has 2 years. GAWD help us.

    09/30/2014 17,824,071,380,733.82
    09/30/2013 16,738,183,526,697.32
    09/30/2012 16,066,241,407,385.89
    09/30/2011 14,790,340,328,557.15
    09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79
    09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75
    09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49
    09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48
    09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23
    09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50
    09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32
    09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62
    09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16
    09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06
    09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    I will play your silly ass game. Bush raised the deficit 4.4 trillion. The Obamunist......7.8 Trillion. GET your **** STRAIGHT. And Obama still has 2 years. GAWD help us.

    09/30/2014 17,824,071,380,733.82
    09/30/2013 16,738,183,526,697.32
    09/30/2012 16,066,241,407,385.89
    09/30/2011 14,790,340,328,557.15
    09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79
    09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75
    09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49
    09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48
    09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23
    09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50
    09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32
    09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62
    09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16
    09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06
    09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86
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    I'm sure your numbers are correct(although I have seen you quote the wrong data in regards to the Reagan debt) considering 5T turned into 10T during the Bush11 years I believe B.O. is still playing catchup... You guys can quote these numbers any way you chose but the hard truth is the debt mess we have today is the child of the republicans and you can do nothing to change that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
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    I'm sure your numbers are correct(although I have seen you quote the wrong data in regards to the Reagan debt) considering 5T turned into 10T during the Bush11 years I believe B.O. is still playing catchup... You guys can quote these numbers any way you chose but the hard truth is the debt mess we have today is the child of the republicans and you can do nothing to change that..
    http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/r...ebt_histo5.htm

    Easy to find the right numbers. This is from a gubment site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/r...ebt_histo5.htm

    Easy to find the right numbers. This is from a gubment site.
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    Yes sir it is easy to find data but why would you believe anything the government produced?... You seem to think B.O. is in control of every aspect of it.. Doesn't your news sources give you any data that you believe?....
    I think maybe the "more debt in 5 years than all previous presidents combined" came from one of those right wing sources because it always comes from a right wingnut who doesn't bother to pick up a calculator, I could be wrong because I would rather hear from somebody who at least cares what the truth is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
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    Yes sir it is easy to find data but why would you believe anything the government produced?... You seem to think B.O. is in control of every aspect of it.. Doesn't your news sources give you any data that you believe?....
    I think maybe the "more debt in 5 years than all previous presidents combined" came from one of those right wing sources because it always comes from a right wingnut who doesn't bother to pick up a calculator, I could be wrong because I would rather hear from somebody who at least cares what the truth is...
    GOOD FREAKIN GAWD...........

    You're unbelievable..............

    How about the Washington Post:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...national-debt/

    Debt increase* End-of-term GDP* Percentage

    Reagan $1,873 $8,850 21%

    GHW Bush 1,484 $9,410 16%

    Clinton 1,268 $12,680 12%

    GW Bush 4,899 $14,580 34%

    Obama 7,198 $16,160 44%

    (*in billions)

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    health care costs

    All of us were here in 1970, the life expectancy in that year was for a male was 68 yrs old. In 2010 that number went to 76.8, Wont go into population increase, but a lot of things that killed us are now treatable.There are all kinds of figures that we can look at, for any reason. So that leads me to the old adage "figures don't lie, liars figure". So what does all of this mean? If you want to back in time to the "good ole days", lets start at 1940, you guys weren't here then. If things became "poopy" since then, ITS ALL YER FAULT!

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