Keystone Pipeline

[Moveon]

I was listening to NPR radio a couple months back, and I think it was on the Diane Rehms show. they were discussing the keystone pipeline, the pipeline is already being used, and has had a lot of eruptions already, the tar is so thick it has to be heated as well as have harmful chemicals mixed with it before it can be piped. here is some of the article on damage the keystone pipeline has already done.

Trans*Canada, the $48 billion Canadian company that owns the Keystone, has repeatedly said the XL will be “the safest pipeline ever built on U.S. soil,” a technological marvel with automatic shut-off valves and satellite monitoring. The exact composition of what will flow through the pipeline is not publicly available, but it will include bitumen — a thick, semisolid petroleum product — blended with natural gas that has been pressurized to become a liquid. If the line is approved, it could carry 830,000 barrels a day of this “diluted bitumen” across Nebraska, over 275 miles and through 515 private properties. No one knows exactly what a leak would do, but evidence from past malfunctions suggests catastrophe. In 2010, a spill from Enbridge’s Line 6B dropped 840,000 gallons of bitumen to the bottom of the Kalamazoo River in Michigan. Four years and more than a billion dollars later, the cleanup continues. Last spring, Exxon’s Pegasus line burst near a residential area of Mayflower, Ark., spreading 210,000 gallons of bitumen through neighborhood streets, causing evacuations and leaving residents complaining of respiratory problems, nausea and headaches.

Obama is going to Veto this bill. So don't worry it's not going to be built on US soil. If Canada wants this pipeline let them build it across Canada. Let them suffer any environmental damages if the pipeline leaks. After all this is their oil not ours.

[GeoFisher]

Obama is going to Veto this bill. So don't worry it's not going to be built on US soil. If Canada wants this pipeline let them build it across Canada. Let them suffer any environmental damages if the pipeline leaks. After all this is their oil not ours.

He will veto it, and it will be sent back as VETO PROOF. It will be built, and Obama will be forced to sign it.

Of course, his legacy already ***** ass, so maybe he doesn't give a crap. He sure doesn't give a crap about much anything else that is important, so why this.

Later,

Geo

[roadrunner]

Obama is going to Veto this bill. So don't worry it's not going to be built on US soil. If Canada wants this pipeline let them build it across Canada. Let them suffer any environmental damages if the pipeline leaks. After all this is their oil not ours.

What an idiotic post how will this oil get to American refineries if it goes across Canada??? It will not be Canada oil it will be our oil after we buy it. We have pipelines running everywhere and they all have shut off valves so the risk of spills are very minimal. I would rather buy oil from our good neighbors to the north than from Mid East Muslim nations. Obama Is talking down the 40,000 temporary jobs as though they do not count but he was all over these type shovel ready jobs before he was against them.

Give me ONE GOOD reason not to build this pipeline. If we build it it can also move the shale oil from Nebraska and get it off the rail roads.

[GeoFisher]

What an idiotic post how will this oil get to American refineries if it goes across Canada??? It will not be Canada oil it will be our oil after we buy it. We have pipelines running everywhere and they all have shut off valves so the risk of spills are very minimal. I would rather buy oil from our good neighbors to the north than from Mid East Muslim nations. Obama Is talking down the 40,000 temporary jobs as though they do not count but he was all over these type shovel ready jobs before he was against them.

Give me ONE GOOD reason not to build this pipeline. If we build it it can also move the shale oil from Nebraska and get it off the rail roads.

Leftists and LibTARDS have everyone convinced that Canadian Oil is simply going to pass through our country, be refined into gasoline and be SOLD somewhere overseas.

That has been the narrative for a **** ton of years. You know what....it ain't true. Oil and resources we can keep in NORTH AMERICA and utilize in NORTH AMERICA, and refine in NORTH AMERICA makes NORTH AMERICA stronger....

But hey, arguing with a libtard is hard. Real Hard.

[mhall]

What an idiotic post how will this oil get to American refineries if it goes across Canada??? It will not be Canada oil it will be our oil after we buy it. We have pipelines running everywhere and they all have shut off valves so the risk of spills are very minimal. I would rather buy oil from our good neighbors to the north than from Mid East Muslim nations. Obama Is talking down the 40,000 temporary jobs as though they do not count but he was all over these type shovel ready jobs before he was against them.

Give me ONE GOOD reason not to build this pipeline. If we build it it can also move the shale oil from Nebraska and get it off the rail roads.

Good post but they can't answer you and if they do they will just repeat what their King has said. They get on us about watching FOX news but they quote verbatim what their idol says all the time. Obama has to please the leftist evironmental tree huggers and his Saudi buddies therefore he wants this pipeline dead.

I guess you Obama worshippers like paying 4 dollars a gallon for gas, anything for your King.

[Hlleonard]

What an idiotic post how will this oil get to American refineries if it goes across Canada??? It will not be Canada oil it will be our oil after we buy it. We have pipelines running everywhere and they all have shut off valves so the risk of spills are very minimal. I would rather buy oil from our good neighbors to the north than from Mid East Muslim nations. Obama Is talking down the 40,000 temporary jobs as though they do not count but he was all over these type shovel ready jobs before he was against them.

Give me ONE GOOD reason not to build this pipeline. If we build it it can also move the shale oil from Nebraska and get it off the rail roads.

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Hmmm... Not exactly sure if you believe the oil coming through a pipeline across the us will be cheaper than oil coming from another source or how you could believe that... Oil is a set price going to refineries I believe as the price is posted daily... More oil through this pipeline, less oil from some other source, I suspect refineries have an amount of crude they need for their demand daily and whether or not it comes through a pipeline or transported by ship it is the same price and volume or do you believe oil through the pipeline wont be subject to the daily price of crude on the world market... I suspect there are a good many from the right here who aren't living in right wing lala land and can apply common sense to the issue, this pipeline will do nothing for this country in as far as the amount of oil available to the us, the only benefit it will give the us is in the jobs it creates and that weighed against the liabilities of the thing is the only consideration need be shone to it... Canada's oil will be on the world market in the same quantities and price regardless of how it gets to that market..

[roadrunner]

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Hmmm... Not exactly sure if you believe the oil coming through a pipeline across the us will be cheaper than oil coming from another source or how you could believe that... Oil is a set price going to refineries I believe as the price is posted daily... More oil through this pipeline, less oil from some other source, I suspect refineries have an amount of crude they need for their demand daily and whether or not it comes through a pipeline or transported by ship it is the same price and volume or do you believe oil through the pipeline wont be subject to the daily price of crude on the world market... I suspect there are a good many from the right here who aren't living in right wing lala land and can apply common sense to the issue, this pipeline will do nothing for this country in as far as the amount of oil available to the us, the only benefit it will give the us is in the jobs it creates and that weighed against the liabilities of the thing is the only consideration need be shone to it... Canada's oil will be on the world market in the same quantities and price regardless of how it gets to that market..

Sorry but you are misinformed the price of Canadian oil is much cheaper than any other oil. The price you see quoted is for a sweet crude I have an oil well and i do not get that price for my oil because it is a heavy crude all oil purchased is bench marked against this sweet crude but is discounted from that price depending on the quality of the crude. The crude from Canada is cheap because it is very hard to refine so there are trade offs. Now that we have that corrected and if you would read my post what I am saying is I want to buy Canadian oil as they do not support terrorism and I ask you to give me one GOOD REASON not to buy from someone who likes us??? Also the price of oil is one thing the transportation price is a different price when we buy oil this price is not the delivered price and it is much cheaper to transport from Canada and Nebraska by pipeline than from the Mid East by ship. or from Nebraska or Canada by rail. It is a much safer way to transport than any other option.

I remember when they put in the trans Alaska pipeline the tree huggers were scared to death that all the male Caribou would be on one side of the pipe and the females on another and we would not have anymore Caribou how ever they found that the Caribou love the pipeline.

[GeoFisher]

Sorry but you are misinformed the price of Canadian oil is much cheaper than any other oil. The price you see quoted is for a sweet crude I have an oil well and i do not get that price for my oil because it is a heavy crude all oil purchased is bench marked against this sweet crude but is discounted from that price depending on the quality of the crude. The crude from Canada is cheap because it is very hard to refine so there are trade offs. Now that we have that corrected and if you would read my post what I am saying is I want to buy Canadian oil as they do not support terrorism and I ask you to give me one GOOD REASON not to buy from someone who likes us??? Also the price of oil is one thing the transportation price is a different price when we buy oil this price is not the delivered price and it is much cheaper to transport from Canada and Nebraska by pipeline than from the Mid East by ship. or from Nebraska or Canada by rail. It is a much safer way to transport than any other option.

I remember when they put in the trans Alaska pipeline the tree huggers were scared to death that all the male Caribou would be on one side of the pipe and the females on another and we would not have anymore Caribou how ever they found that the Caribou love the pipeline.

You just bitch slapped him back into the 60's...........

[kygorski]

Not everyone will be happy no matter which way we turn. We have several northern refineries that have been ada[ted to canadian crude. Will it mean more jobs? certainly for some for awhile. will all of us gain from it? doubtful. NO MATTER WHAT THE PRICE OF CRUDE IS, WE WILL ALWAYS BE "OVER THE BARREL.

[Hlleonard]

Sorry but you are misinformed the price of Canadian oil is much cheaper than any other oil. The price you see quoted is for a sweet crude I have an oil well and i do not get that price for my oil because it is a heavy crude all oil purchased is bench marked against this sweet crude but is discounted from that price depending on the quality of the crude. The crude from Canada is cheap because it is very hard to refine so there are trade offs. Now that we have that corrected and if you would read my post what I am saying is I want to buy Canadian oil as they do not support terrorism and I ask you to give me one GOOD REASON not to buy from someone who likes us??? Also the price of oil is one thing the transportation price is a different price when we buy oil this price is not the delivered price and it is much cheaper to transport from Canada and Nebraska by pipeline than from the Mid East by ship. or from Nebraska or Canada by rail. It is a much safer way to transport than any other option.

I remember when they put in the trans Alaska pipeline the tree huggers were scared to death that all the male Caribou would be on one side of the pipe and the females on another and we would not have anymore Caribou how ever they found that the Caribou love the pipeline.

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I understand what you are saying but I just doubt we would have a better supply of the finished product, namely fuel for our needs, at a cheaper price regardless of where the oil came from... The pipeline simply will not increase the amount of oil on the world market, canada will market their oil whether or not the pipeline crosses the us..

[Hlleonard]

If not building this pipeline would stop the oil from getting on the market it would be a different story but from what I understand that is not the case and I assume the canadian oil will be the same price regardless of how it gets to that market..... It seems the only benefit to the us is whatever jobs is created by it..

[GeoFisher]

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I understand what you are saying but I just doubt we would have a better supply of the finished product, namely fuel for our needs, at a cheaper price regardless of where the oil came from... The pipeline simply will not increase the amount of oil on the world market, canada will market their oil whether or not the pipeline crosses the us..

Dude, just drop it. You argue with folks just to argue.......America is better off with a reliable and CHEAP supply of energy. Until something is better than OIL, OIL will rule king.

Be happy for the 50% drop in the cost of energy and the deliver of goods. Hopefully it "trickles" down to all products died to oil and delivery.....

Later,

Geo