Where are the Americans

[Hlleonard]

I read the post you put up, responding to yours about "weve always paid taxes", although seems you have ignored alot of mine.... But again, to me it's just sad that so many people can support the party of "free".... Good thing for people like you that every once in awhile a jimmy carter and an Obama will come along.... And in my opinion, thank God for all of us it only happens every 40 years or so

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Maybe if a ronald reagan hadn't come along we wouldn't have an 18 T debt today...

[201stratos]

And if Obama hadn't come along it would be 9..... All kidding aside do you remember how bad it was under Carter?

[GeoFisher]

And if Obama hadn't come along it would be 9..... All kidding aside do you remember how bad it was under Carter?

He was probably smoking too much DOPE back then to care.........

I was in Jr high school and knew Carter was a freakin MORON. I knew it immediately when I had to raise my rates to pay for gasoline because of the embargo, mostly CAUSED by him.

You also remember ole Ronnie making a call to the Iranians on the day he took office right? Do you suppose those camel humping ragheads were a little scared about the significant and GIGANTIC ass kicking that was coming their way.

Yea, a little Ronnie right about now would have ISIS begging for forgiveness. Too bad we have the polar opposite of what I would consider a good president.

Later,

Geo

[GeoFisher]

And if Obama hadn't come along it would be 9..... All kidding aside do you remember how bad it was under Carter?

All kidding aside nothing.......if Hlleonard doesn't think that Carter, and every single one of his policies was not a complete and utter failure........well.

I wonder how he liked those 25% interest rates........but hell that too was Bush's fault.

Later,

Geo

[Hlleonard]

And if Obama hadn't come along it would be 9..... All kidding aside do you remember how bad it was under Carter?

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Debt

12/31/2008------

$10,699,804,864,612 So you think Mr.Romney would have paid off 1.5 T before he took office?

All kidding aside do you remember how bad it was under Carter?
Yes sir I do.... Mr Carter was a lousy president but he was not the president who kick started massive over spending....

[201stratos]

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Debt

12/31/2008------

$10,699,804,864,612 So you think Mr.Romney would have paid off 1.5 T before he took office?

All kidding aside do you remember how bad it was under Carter?
Yes sir I do.... Mr Carter was a lousy president but he was not the president who kick started massive over spending....

I will answer your question, no i doubt very seriously 1.5 trillion wouldve been paid off.... And after 6 years of your liberal party in control, what is that amount today... How much has it grown in the last 6 years? I do feel strongly that had the election gone differently that the debt would not have increased to this level...I played along and answered your question, so will you kindly reply with the amount of current debt after the liberals have had control for 6 years?

[Hlleonard]

I will answer your question, no i doubt very seriously 1.5 trillion wouldve been paid off.... And after 6 years of your liberal party in control, what is that amount today... How much has it grown in the last 6 years? I do feel strongly that had the election gone differently that the debt would not have increased to this level...I played along and answered your question, so will you kindly reply with the amount of current debt after the liberals have had control for 6 years?

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!8T and that is a massive amount of debt... Mr Romney had aspirations for national healthcare, why would you think that would not have been a disaster also... BO is still 2T or so behind bush2 and doesn't have any chance of catching Mr. Reagan.... The debt might eventually bury us but this president has been neither the first nor the worst... If you guys get your wish the next election and he fares as well as the last republican president, the debt will be something like 40T , lets hope for the future of the country some resemblance of sanity finds its way to leadership... If the welfare cut of the pie was totally eliminated we would still have something like half a T deficit but you guys think the answer is cut out that part of the budget, just doesn't measure up to the facts...

[GeoFisher]

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!8T and that is a massive amount of debt... Mr Romney had aspirations for national healthcare, why would you think that would not have been a disaster also... BO is still 2T or so behind bush2 and doesn't have any chance of catching Mr. Reagan....

WHERE in the HELL do you get your stats?

It is quite easy to find this stuff.

Obama grew debt from 10 trillion to 17.8 trillion. a 7.8 trillion increase.
Bush from 5.6 trillion to 9 trillion of about 4.4 trillion increase.
Reagan 1 trillion to 2.6 trillion. a 1.6 trillion increase.

So if you go by percentages......

Reagan doubled the debt, actually a little more than that.....but it was still less than 30% of GDP.
Bush didn't quite double the debt. But still, it was about 35% of GDP.
Obama not quite double either, but his debt has ballooned to about 45% of GDP.

Don't look at the percentage of growth. I give two craps about that. I really, really CARE about the percentage of GDP.

I know you don't understand simple math so I will explain it to you.

Under Reagan our debt was about 30 cents of a dollar.
Under Bush our debt was about 35 cents of a dollar.
Under Obama our debt is currently 45 cents of a dollar, and headed to 60 cents of a dollar.

GET your head out of your butt, and RECOGNIZE that the benefits and garbage this great country pay out are bankrupting this GREAT COUNTRY.

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/r...t/histdebt.htm


Date Dollar Amount

09/30/2014 17,824,071,380,733.82
09/30/2013 16,738,183,526,697.32
09/30/2012 16,066,241,407,385.89
09/30/2011 14,790,340,328,557.15
09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75
09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49
09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62
09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06
09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86
09/30/1999 5,656,270,901,615.43
09/30/1998 5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 4,411,488,883,139.38
09/30/1992 4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 1,142,034,000,000.00
09/30/1981 997,855,000,000.00
09/30/1980 907,701,000,000.00

[roadrunner]

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;542780]WHERE in the HELL do you get your stats?

It is quite easy to find this stuff.

Obama grew debt from 10 trillion to 17.8 trillion. a 7.8 trillion increase.
Bush from 5.6 trillion to 9 trillion of about 4.4 trillion increase.
Reagan 1 trillion to 2.6 trillion. a 1.6 trillion increase.

Reagan spent a tremendous amount of that money rebuilding our military and when we became stronger than Russia he ended the cold war money well spent

Bush entire eight years was spent fighting terrorism money we had to spend and was successful and Obama threw it all away.

Obama 7.8 trillion in only six years money wasted on people who got him elected.

[Hlleonard]

http://www.skymachines.com/us-nation...ental-term.htm

[GeoFisher]

http://www.skymachines.com/us-nation...ental-term.htm

Your chart is missing 2 years...........how about trying again with something up to date, or is that too much to ask.

AND another thing.......MY DATA is from the us treasury. I tend to trust it a little more. Especially since this is what every single legitimate source utilizes.

Try Again.

[GeoFisher]

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Maybe if a ronald reagan hadn't come along we wouldn't have an 18 T debt today...

9 Trillion of that occurred in 6 years under the current SOCIALIST. Man I have brick in my house that understands that.