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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
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    not sure why the rest of us should pay part of the support of your employees simply because you are a small business.. If you can't cut it somebody else will...
    Say what? This is exactly the same stuff you rail against. Just replace "your employees" and "are a small business" with "those that have minimum wage jobs" and "didn't bother to further yourselves" to get the exact same premise. This aint burger king you can't have it your way, or in this case both ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by psprowler View Post
    I have two fellow employees, both who get Medicaid benefits. One just purchased a 2014 vehicle, only to crash it not 30 minutes after buying it. The other's husband came through yesterday - driving a nice new mini-cooper. I drive a 2004 vehicle. Go figure. Why better yourselves when you can just get a check that allows you to buy nice things? It's a no brainier really. All of us who go to work day after day are the morons.....
    Dude you HIT the nail on the head.

    I know a **** ton of folks who are "just getting by" that actually act like their the freakin rockerfellers.........

    If you make 30 or 40k, you CANNOT afford a 50,000 bass boat. WTF kind of dumbass moron are you. BUT these are the fools that we're creating.....AND this same fool will as quick a stink on **** try to collect a gubment check for stubbing his toe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
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    i have seen such things also, don't know how some manage to do these things but it is by no means the norm... Most people who qualify for gov assistance struggle from what I have seen... There are those who are losers and game the system, I could care less if they take benefits away from these losers, that is not what this thread was about... If you work a full time job you should not have to feed your kids with food stamps...
    You are completely off base..........if you have an iphone and a 50 inch big screen.......you're not poor.

    Watch these dumbasses flock to best buy and other places with the gubment assisted tax returns due to earned income credits......

    It is amazing to watch these folks buy up goodies when the're so "poor" they cannot afford food.

    That iphone that costs 100 bucks a month or that 1200 dollar big screen........by my calculations....that is 200/month for ONE hear to buy FOOD.

    If you feel so bad for them.......GIVE up your GUBMENT check to help them out.

    Later,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
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    I understand that it is much harder for small businesses to increase their pay scale but if you can only afford to pay food stamp wages then maybe you are part of the problem... not sure why the rest of us should pay part of the support of your employees simply because you are a small business.. If you can't cut it somebody else will... In our little town there must be 4 or 5 businesses mowing yards, here mostly they pay school kids to help them and I don't have a problem with that, school kids aren't having to provide a home and support for a family... I'm sure 1 or 2 businesses can provide those services and be in better shape to pay a better wage if they needed full time employees...
    Hlleonard, if you don't mind me asking, what do you do for a living/career?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
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    The right wing , posting on boards like this one, for the most part have no clue and could care less... Reagan started this crap and it continually gets worst and the right wing is oblivious to the damage his "trickle down" nonsense has done to this country.... He turned loose the monster that allowed the top to rape the rest of the country, Bill Clinton helped the situation a small amount but by no means fixed it...
    You're a freakin joke.........

    I post info and you say it's a lie. Then I post info about the info and you say, ok I cannot trust that either because it is also a lie.

    I guarantee your sorry butt that I educate myself more on the issues and the FACTS than you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    I would like to know how many scam the system.....my figure would be much higher than yours. I say this because in my life I met ZERO people people who fall into your question. I have met many more who scam the system!

    I have a particular family member........not brother, sister, mom, date, etc, etc, but close enough. This person worked in a UAW plant for 15 years.

    * Then they started to "complain" and make noise about a repetitive stress issue.
    * Then they systematically started down the path to gaming the system.
    * At family functions, folks would talk about how such and such was working it.
    * Then they'd talk about how to stay on it.

    This person who has a "repetitive stress" issue, and can no longer work in their job, has been on 100% disability from Chevy for 15 years now. They are now on Social Security disability so you and I get to pay for their lies........

    Funny thing........this person can spend all their days on the Lake......Purty northern Indiana Lake. No wheelchair, no walker, no cane..........just their rod and real and 19 ft deep v lund.

    They all worth together to "scheme" they system. Hell I think the freakin union halls actually have classes on how to stick it the the "company".

    Yea, SCREW them all..........I saw my share of this garbage growing up.

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    Talking to a liberal is like flushing a TURD down the toilet.

    You only have to listen and smell it for a little while......then all is good, until the next TURD.

    Hold on while I go take a big ole Hlleonard and wipe my waterdog101......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
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    Left or right, ceo's are a disease that has been growing for the last 30 or 40 years with no hope of a cure.... Trickle down has no political bias, it allows all businesses to funnel assets from the bottom to the top and has for a good many years under the precept of businesses prospering will somehow not find its way into the bank accounts of those at the top and nowhere else.. Has worked about as well wings on pigs... Unions have a bad side which I have never denied but along with the weakening of the unions comes the economy we are constantly whining about, again 2x2 never equals 4... Being responsible for ourselves doesn't seem to be working very well does it..
    Where is the dang unlike button.

    You know, you can take all the ceo's in the country and combine their income, and it will come up to less than 1% of the entire freakin GDP. You folks on the left don't get it. Talent costs money, and talent DEMAND costs money.

    If a CEO takes a company from a 30 dollar stock to a 150 dollar stock, on HIS VISION and HIS leadership, you're **** straight he's worth every single penny the shareholders and the board choose to pay him.

    Why do you suppose one particular athlete can generate a 30 million dollar contract and the other can generate a 3 million dollar contract? YOU know the answer. It doesn't matter if I think they are both over paid. The DEMAND is there for what they provide, therefore if you have to pay 30 million dollars to get his services, you pay 30 million dollars.

    One day, maybe in my lifetime, you will understand, but I doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadrunner View Post
    mhall here is your answer they are all waiting for there unemployment to run out.
    END OF EXTENDED UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS CREDITED FOR JOB SURGE
    WashEx: “Sixty percent of job creation in 2014 was caused by the expiration of unemployment benefits, according to a new working paper published by the National Bureau of Economic Research. In late 2013, a standoff between Republicans and Democrats led to the abrupt expiration of long-term unemployment benefits. Democrats warned that the expiration would have disastrous ramifications, but Republicans had long argued that allowing Americans to collect unemployment benefits for an indefinite period of time provided a disincentive for them to work. The new working paper found that the expiration of benefits was responsible for the creation of over 1.8 million jobs. Nearly 1 million of those jobs were created by workers who would have otherwise stayed out of the labor force if unemployment benefits had been extended. Overall, almost 3 million jobs were created in 2014.”
    I was waiting for someone besides me posting that............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
    Does anybody here believe the lower and middle class are in better shape today that they were before reaganomics?

    Does anybody here believe the upper class hasn't gained wealth as compared to the other two?

    Does anybody here believe the end result is not directly caused by the idea that if you let the rich make all the money they can they will allow that to "trickle down"?... sure they will but only if you are able to force that trickle down.

    Does anybody here believe cutting those taxes did not lead to the debt boondongle we have today, if you do. look at the top tax rates before and after reagan... trickle down was a sham that only benefited the wealthy.

    Does anybody remember what Bush1 referred to trickle down as?
    31 percent: Top tax rate in 1991
    50 percent: Top tax rate in 1986
    70 percent: Top tax rate in 1980
    91 percent: Top tax rate in 1963
    Voodoo Economics.........and BUSH 1 was wrong.........

    The problem with your chart is that we're now in a situation where people don't work. We have 41 million families that don't pay federal taxes. IN fact, you and I pay them on average about $4000.00 EACH. lets see 41,000,000 * 4000.00 ****, that is one freakin gigantic number.

    That my friends............is about 164 BILLION dollars given to dumb **** sum bitches for making bad decisions.

    Now lets, enforce some federal tax collection on those jokers.......say 10%, which is a whole hell lot less than it was under Reagan. That 10% would be a nice number too.....about 80 Billion.

    Hell don't look now, but with one fail swoop of my PEN, President GEO would eliminate 1/3 of our budget deficit by eliminating one of the biggest tit sucking programs our country has ever known.

    Yea, dope yourself up, get laid, pop out a few kids, dope yourself up some more, drink and party a little....next thing you know, you're a gubment statistic sucking off the tit of uncle Sam.

    I say cut off the TIT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    Whats insulting abouit that groucho? If you have a wonderfull place to work, you should have all the help you need. Why don't you? I had bad jobs, and kept looking, is that a crime? If I would have stuck with a no where job, I wouldn't have been able to send my kids to good schools, and help with their college education. And I pay for my meds. you don't, so please don't let that bother you.
    Who said it was wonderful I implied it was good steady work. We have guys here making darn good money with nothing more than a high school education and a couple without one. They are actually working every day to recieve a pay check and support themselves and their familes. They drive nice vehicles and have homes and live pretty good but guess what duffus they worked for it and it WASN'T HANDED TO THEM. That is the whole point you swinging d ick liberals don't understand because your da mn brains don't work like normal human beings.

    Maybe its all that free crap that rots brain cells...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSplitshot View Post
    Hlleonard, if you don't mind me asking, what do you do for a living/career?
    I would like to know this to??????????????????????????????
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