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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
    Nice story, I have actually read the fairy tale before........
    I guess that means you don't have a problem with hunger in this country, we do a good job preventing that as it is now but if you guys here had your way we would be a country wallowing in it.....

    The chart below is closer to the reason our country is weakening than is the folks you guys seem to hate..
    Where would you guess the growing income at the top comes from?... seems pretty obvious.. look at this and look at weakening wages in the last years but you guys can continue wearing your horse blinders and blaming the people st the wrong end of the scale, its a free country..




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    I will guarantee this is not a fairy tail we are becoming closer and closer to a socialist country because of people like you with their heads in the sand drinking the kool aid.

    I do not worry about people going hungry for two reasons number one it is a great motivator people would get off the dead butts and would go fill the jobs mhall needs and the churches and the communities would take care of those that are in real need. They would not be able to game the system like they do now but they would be taken care of. You see we do not need a government to take care of us from the cradle to the grave------socialism does that.

    This country took care of its people for years ( some of them did struggle during the depression but they were proud people willing to work hard and many were to proud for a hand out) before the government figured out they could build an entitlement society and could enslave the poor and downtrodden to become dependent on them and they would buy their votes keeping them in power. I know it sound good when the democrats say they want to take care of the middle class however their policies do just the opposite just look how terrible the middle class has don under the BHO administration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadrunner View Post
    I will guarantee this is not a fairy tail we are becoming closer and closer to a socialist country because of people like you with their heads in the sand drinking the kool aid.

    I do not worry about people going hungry for two reasons number one it is a great motivator people would get off the dead butts and would go fill the jobs mhall needs and the churches and the communities would take care of those that are in real need. They would not be able to game the system like they do now but they would be taken care of. You see we do not need a government to take care of us from the cradle to the grave------socialism does that.

    This country took care of its people for years ( some of them did struggle during the depression but they were proud people willing to work hard and many were to proud for a hand out) before the government figured out they could build an entitlement society and could enslave the poor and downtrodden to become dependent on them and they would buy their votes keeping them in power. I know it sound good when the democrats say they want to take care of the middle class however their policies do just the opposite just look how terrible the middle class has don under the BHO administration.
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    think what you want... We are a better country today without soup lines... What you guys advocate is more of the same... Every person in this country that works for a wage should belong to a labor union and should not feel a need to work for peanuts simply because there is a certain section who thinks the country is set up for them exclusively...
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    Get a life Hlleonard

    Just more liberal trash outta PA, speaking of which, qualifying for food stamps, ADC, etc etc is based on where you live PA vs TX is skewed at best. As to making ends meet, let's remember that it's a trickle down effect. Every time the obumanenet (govt) sets the poverty threshold numbers, then just that many folks are taken out of the workforce, it's basic economics and a bit of historical review of the subject will show the numbers. In our rush to make everyone equal and re-distribute the wealth, we've lost sight of what made this country. With over 50% of the country on some type of entitlement, what do you expect. As to construction jobs, I dare say a significant percentage of the folks out there who would qualify are to busy shootin up and snortin and couldn't be bothered with a job when they can get all they need, free cell phones, govt assistance, etc. doing nothing.
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    Push to be equal is a phrase coined by the right wing...... People wish to be able to provide for their families and 10 dollars an hour just doesn't do that... We are a better country economically when wages provide that and working people don't have to depend on handouts.. I guess you guys don't believe we have an entire class of working poor in this country, there is a reason we have that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
    Push to be equal is a phrase coined by the right wing...... People wish to be able to provide for their families and 10 dollars an hour just doesn't do that... We are a better country economically when wages provide that and working people don't have to depend on handouts.. I guess you guys don't believe we have an entire class of working poor in this country, there is a reason we have that..
    And the reason 9 times out of 10 is because they make poor choices with the money they make - like having to have the new jumbo iPhone 6s and new cars they can't afford. Not to worry though, plenty of hard working schmucks out there that will pick up the slack. If its good enough for the kardasians then by gawd we better buy 2 or 3 of them....
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    I have two fellow employees, both who get Medicaid benefits. One just purchased a 2014 vehicle, only to crash it not 30 minutes after buying it. The other's husband came through yesterday - driving a nice new mini-cooper. I drive a 2004 vehicle. Go figure. Why better yourselves when you can just get a check that allows you to buy nice things? It's a no brainier really. All of us who go to work day after day are the morons.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by psprowler View Post
    I have two fellow employees, both who get Medicaid benefits. One just purchased a 2014 vehicle, only to crash it not 30 minutes after buying it. The other's husband came through yesterday - driving a nice new mini-cooper. I drive a 2004 vehicle. Go figure. Why better yourselves when you can just get a check that allows you to buy nice things? It's a no brainier really. All of us who go to work day after day are the morons.....
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    i have seen such things also, don't know how some manage to do these things but it is by no means the norm... Most people who qualify for gov assistance struggle from what I have seen... There are those who are losers and game the system, I could care less if they take benefits away from these losers, that is not what this thread was about... If you work a full time job you should not have to feed your kids with food stamps...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
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    i have seen such things also, don't know how some manage to do these things but it is by no means the norm... Most people who qualify for gov assistance struggle from what I have seen... There are those who are losers and game the system, I could care less if they take benefits away from these losers, that is not what this thread was about... If you work a full time job you should not have to feed your kids with food stamps...
    I don't know any way to find out, but I would like to know how many million people work two jobs and have to get food stamps to help feed their children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdog101 View Post
    I don't know any way to find out, but I would like to know how many million people work two jobs and have to get food stamps to help feed their children.
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    The right wing , posting on boards like this one, for the most part have no clue and could care less... Reagan started this crap and it continually gets worst and the right wing is oblivious to the damage his "trickle down" nonsense has done to this country.... He turned loose the monster that allowed the top to rape the rest of the country, Bill Clinton helped the situation a small amount but by no means fixed it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
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    The right wing , posting on boards like this one, for the most part have no clue and could care less... Reagan started this crap and it continually gets worst and the right wing is oblivious to the damage his "trickle down" nonsense has done to this country.... He turned loose the monster that allowed the top to rape the rest of the country, Bill Clinton helped the situation a small amount but by no means fixed it...
    Any of that so called raping being done by Liberals? Any Liberal CEO making millions in bonuses? Any Liberal who does well means that "trickle down" worked or is it still unfair and evil?

    Oh i have a clue since I still work for a living where as your retired and past your money making years. I comment based more on what I experience as opposed to some propaganda by either party. Your scenarios of making us all get better pay with Unions controlling us sounds an awful like having the gubment take care of us. Why do we need a group directly controlling what we do? Can't we be responsible for our actions and live with the consequences of our actions? Union members can hide behind their union card and if the gubment controlled everything how would we clean up the losers?? Hell we can't do it now!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    Any of that so called raping being done by Liberals? Any Liberal CEO making millions in bonuses? Any Liberal who does well means that "trickle down" worked or is it still unfair and evil?

    Oh i have a clue since I still work for a living where as your retired and past your money making years. I comment based more on what I experience as opposed to some propaganda by either party. Your scenarios of making us all get better pay with Unions controlling us sounds an awful like having the gubment take care of us. Why do we need a group directly controlling what we do? Can't we be responsible for our actions and live with the consequences of our actions? Union members can hide behind their union card and if the gubment controlled everything how would we clean up the losers?? Hell we can't do it now!!!
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    Left or right, ceo's are a disease that has been growing for the last 30 or 40 years with no hope of a cure.... Trickle down has no political bias, it allows all businesses to funnel assets from the bottom to the top and has for a good many years under the precept of businesses prospering will somehow not find its way into the bank accounts of those at the top and nowhere else.. Has worked about as well wings on pigs... Unions have a bad side which I have never denied but along with the weakening of the unions comes the economy we are constantly whining about, again 2x2 never equals 4... Being responsible for ourselves doesn't seem to be working very well does it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
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    Being responsible for ourselves doesn't seem to be working very well does it..
    When in the last 20 or so years has the whole of society been doing this? I musta been texting on my phone when all that and U2 becoming a super musical group was going down. Can someone give me the cliffs notes version of what happened?
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