Where are the Americans

[DJD]

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The right wing , posting on boards like this one, for the most part have no clue and could care less... Reagan started this crap and it continually gets worst and the right wing is oblivious to the damage his "trickle down" nonsense has done to this country.... He turned loose the monster that allowed the top to rape the rest of the country, Bill Clinton helped the situation a small amount but by no means fixed it...

Any of that so called raping being done by Liberals? Any Liberal CEO making millions in bonuses? Any Liberal who does well means that "trickle down" worked or is it still unfair and evil?

Oh i have a clue since I still work for a living where as your retired and past your money making years. I comment based more on what I experience as opposed to some propaganda by either party. Your scenarios of making us all get better pay with Unions controlling us sounds an awful like having the gubment take care of us. Why do we need a group directly controlling what we do? Can't we be responsible for our actions and live with the consequences of our actions? Union members can hide behind their union card and if the gubment controlled everything how would we clean up the losers?? Hell we can't do it now!!!

[Hlleonard]

Any of that so called raping being done by Liberals? Any Liberal CEO making millions in bonuses? Any Liberal who does well means that "trickle down" worked or is it still unfair and evil?

Oh i have a clue since I still work for a living where as your retired and past your money making years. I comment based more on what I experience as opposed to some propaganda by either party. Your scenarios of making us all get better pay with Unions controlling us sounds an awful like having the gubment take care of us. Why do we need a group directly controlling what we do? Can't we be responsible for our actions and live with the consequences of our actions? Union members can hide behind their union card and if the gubment controlled everything how would we clean up the losers?? Hell we can't do it now!!!

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Left or right, ceo's are a disease that has been growing for the last 30 or 40 years with no hope of a cure.... Trickle down has no political bias, it allows all businesses to funnel assets from the bottom to the top and has for a good many years under the precept of businesses prospering will somehow not find its way into the bank accounts of those at the top and nowhere else.. Has worked about as well wings on pigs... Unions have a bad side which I have never denied but along with the weakening of the unions comes the economy we are constantly whining about, again 2x2 never equals 4... Being responsible for ourselves doesn't seem to be working very well does it..

[psprowler]

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Being responsible for ourselves doesn't seem to be working very well does it..

When in the last 20 or so years has the whole of society been doing this? I musta been texting on my phone when all that and U2 becoming a super musical group was going down. Can someone give me the cliffs notes version of what happened?

[DJD]

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Left or right, ceo's are a disease that has been growing for the last 30 or 40 years with no hope of a cure.... Trickle down has no political bias, it allows all businesses to funnel assets from the bottom to the top and has for a good many years under the precept of businesses prospering will somehow not find its way into the bank accounts of those at the top and nowhere else.. Has worked about as well wings on pigs... Unions have a bad side which I have never denied but along with the weakening of the unions comes the economy we are constantly whining about, again 2x2 never equals 4... Being responsible for ourselves doesn't seem to be working very well does it..

I don't remember all the aspects of trickle down economics but to say it didn't work seems foolish. It did work pretty well when Ronny needs it to...didn't it? I also the the basic idea of people spending more when they have more to spend is true. Unfortunately, when some folks get money they don't understand the need to save some. Your disgust with RR prolly runs as deep as mine for Obama.

Tax cuts are or were extended to companies to this day and some may say well that's the problem! The gubment doesn't have the revenue it needs to operate but I say the gubment could take double the taxes they do and still run out of money because that is what they do. They spend money that they take from us. The more they take the more they spend. Obama increases gubment like crazy because he believes we can't be trusted with our own lives (maybe an overstatement but I don't like him or anybody that does)

I will admit I don't read about financial history or different economic theory's because they bore me. I also don't spend a ton of time researching topics on here that pop up but like I said before I usually look at my situation and my circle of friends(both of them) family and see how we live. I can understand what they have done in life and what life has done to them and I don't see the gloom and doom of RR popping up in our conversations. Now, obama is another story......he proves that mistakes, arrogance, ignorance, stupidity, lies, deceit, Cranius rectumus and racism has no color preference.

So you are saying that if RR and trickle down would have not existed we would be in a much better situation? Federal debt potentially lower? Household incomes much better and ceo's not taking home millions of dollars in bonuses? You feel we would all be doing much better? I don't see how that can be. We would have to excuse so many things in history which is impossible. To start with how would we excuse Jimmy Carter? Obama?

[roadrunner]

mhall here is your answer they are all waiting for there unemployment to run out.
END OF EXTENDED UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS CREDITED FOR JOB SURGE
WashEx: “Sixty percent of job creation in 2014 was caused by the expiration of unemployment benefits, according to a new working paper published by the National Bureau of Economic Research. In late 2013, a standoff between Republicans and Democrats led to the abrupt expiration of long-term unemployment benefits. Democrats warned that the expiration would have disastrous ramifications, but Republicans had long argued that allowing Americans to collect unemployment benefits for an indefinite period of time provided a disincentive for them to work. The new working paper found that the expiration of benefits was responsible for the creation of over 1.8 million jobs. Nearly 1 million of those jobs were created by workers who would have otherwise stayed out of the labor force if unemployment benefits had been extended. Overall, almost 3 million jobs were created in 2014.”

[kygorski]

Whats insulting abouit that groucho? If you have a wonderfull place to work, you should have all the help you need. Why don't you? I had bad jobs, and kept looking, is that a crime? If I would have stuck with a no where job, I wouldn't have been able to send my kids to good schools, and help with their college education. And I pay for my meds. you don't, so please don't let that bother you.

[mhall]

Whats insulting abouit that groucho? If you have a wonderfull place to work, you should have all the help you need. Why don't you? I had bad jobs, and kept looking, is that a crime? If I would have stuck with a no where job, I wouldn't have been able to send my kids to good schools, and help with their college education. And I pay for my meds. you don't, so please don't let that bother you.

Who said it was wonderful I implied it was good steady work. We have guys here making darn good money with nothing more than a high school education and a couple without one. They are actually working every day to recieve a pay check and support themselves and their familes. They drive nice vehicles and have homes and live pretty good but guess what duffus they worked for it and it WASN'T HANDED TO THEM. That is the whole point you swinging d ick liberals don't understand because your da mn brains don't work like normal human beings.

Maybe its all that free crap that rots brain cells...

[Hlleonard]

Does anybody here believe the lower and middle class are in better shape today that they were before reaganomics?

Does anybody here believe the upper class hasn't gained wealth as compared to the other two?

Does anybody here believe the end result is not directly caused by the idea that if you let the rich make all the money they can they will allow that to "trickle down"?... sure they will but only if you are able to force that trickle down.

Does anybody here believe cutting those taxes did not lead to the debt boondongle we have today, if you do. look at the top tax rates before and after reagan... trickle down was a sham that only benefited the wealthy.

Does anybody remember what Bush1 referred to trickle down as?
31 percent: Top tax rate in 1991
50 percent: Top tax rate in 1986
70 percent: Top tax rate in 1980
91 percent: Top tax rate in 1963

[psprowler]

Does anybody here believe the lower and middle class are in better shape today that they were before reaganomics?

Does anybody here believe the upper class hasn't gained wealth as compared to the other two?

Does anybody here believe the end result is not directly caused by the idea that if you let the rich make all the money they can they will allow that to "trickle down"?... sure they will but only if you are able to force that trickle down.

Does anybody here believe cutting those taxes did not lead to the debt boondongle we have today, if you do. look at the top tax rates before and after reagan... trickle down was a sham that only benefited the wealthy.

Does anybody remember what Bush1 referred to trickle down as?
31 percent: Top tax rate in 1991
50 percent: Top tax rate in 1986
70 percent: Top tax rate in 1980
91 percent: Top tax rate in 1963

As a mere sperm cell I was not able to come to any conclusions about wealth distribution amongst classes before Reagan became president. I just know that you can't artificially inflate something like wages and not expect those wages to be offset by an increase in cost, reduction in workforce or both. Raising minimum wage at a place like McDonald's for example from 7.25 to 15 dollars - you are getting the same exact production from the worker - they aren't going to magically start cranking out 100 more hamburgers per hour. The owner would still like to make a profit because after all, he put in the hard work and took the investment risks of owning his own business. So what's he going to do?

It's greed on both ends. On the top end the executive has to make 1.5 billion instead of 1.25 billion and on the low end it's entitlement greed. Everybody has "x" so I deserve to have "x" as well. Then I buy "x" with money I didn't have and now I don't have enough to buy "y" which I actually need. The priorities are not in order whatsoever. Most folks could made ends meet if they made better decisions with their money. However that doesn't start at age 30 or 40 when for most that's too late. It starts early in life. Virtually every decision you make in life has consequences. There is no "reset" button, although the government is doing their best to try and create one.

There will always be poor people. There will always be rich people. I don't care if the CEO is snorting coke off a strippers back on a yacht somewhere in the South Pacific while filming it in HD for later viewing on a 106" projector screen.

[psprowler]

And to kygorski's point I think he does make a valid one. Good jobs don't go begging. They have to be earned and are not just given. If that's the point he was trying to make I agree. Don't always agree with him, but do in this instance.

[GeoFisher]

Talking to a liberal is like flushing a TURD down the toilet.

You only have to listen and smell it for a little while......then all is good, until the next TURD.

Hold on while I go take a big ole Hlleonard and wipe my waterdog101......

[DJD]

Talking to a liberal is like flushing a TURD down the toilet.

You only have to listen and smell it for a little while......then all is good, until the next TURD.

Hold on while I go take a big ole Hlleonard and wipe my waterdog101......

HAHAHAHAHA dang it....I about choked on my sweet tea!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA !!