United Steel Workers - Oil Workers Strike

[waterdog101]

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Why would anybody want a union if they are paid at union scale and treated as well?

a company that is working close to an area that has a Union, will pay union scale or very close to it, to keep their workers from joining the union. but let the same company move away from the union area, and watch the wages drop.

[Hlleonard]

a company that is working close to an area that has a Union, will pay union scale or very close to it, to keep their workers from joining the union. but let the same company move away from the union area, and watch the wages drop.

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that is exactly correct... IBM paid good wages for years, ask anybody who worked there why and most will tell you that same thing... toyota in georgetown.... let the union wage suffer and watch how fast it follows suit..

[GeoFisher]

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that is exactly correct... IBM paid good wages for years, ask anybody who worked there why and most will tell you that same thing... toyota in georgetown.... let the union wage suffer and watch how fast it follows suit..

Automation killed those IBM wages........in 1986..........

Guaran-DAM-TEE that ..........

I wrote logic control systems for IBM back then in that plant.....ON THAT FLOOR.

Tell me any different.........

Later,

Geo

[kygorski]

they have a good fil about that explosion. I was getting to leave for work at the steel mill and the explosion shook our house five miles away.

[Bill M of NJ]

I have worked in union and non-union job shops, pay was about the same, to a point, the union shops you GOT your annual raises, in a non-union shop its when ever they feel like it, also in a union shop your health benefits were protected, non-union, you get what is the cheapest they can get. Sometimes the smaller non-union shops you get some extra perks, in a union shop......NO WAY.

[Hlleonard]

I have worked in union and non-union job shops, pay was about the same, to a point, the union shops you GOT your annual raises, in a non-union shop its when ever they feel like it, also in a union shop your health benefits were protected, non-union, you get what is the cheapest they can get. Sometimes the smaller non-union shops you get some extra perks, in a union shop......NO WAY.

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yes... In union shops it is very doubtful anything will come your way that isn't bargained for although we did get a pair of nail clips once for somekind of safety thing... Thats something I guess, lol

[roadrunner]

a company that is working close to an area that has a Union, will pay union scale or very close to it, to keep their workers from joining the union. but let the same company move away from the union area, and watch the wages drop.

Robinson is not a union town however Lawrenceville 25 miles away had a union Texico refinery but it closed 20 years ago I wonder why?

[kygorski]

The calumet area of indiana and illinois also had refinerys close down. Why. Old the cost of up grades would have cut profits. So along came the gulf coast. Tax incentives, lower labor costs, lower safety standards. We had a mobile, a cities service, a shell and a sinclair refinery in that area. After the standard oil fire all of them eventually closed. Where did they go? Ever been down to the gulf? From western la, to east texas its ALL refinery, and petro plants.