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Prime example of Do what I say, not what ! do. Do you think the best and brightest came to america, left the plush life, and convieniences of england to be second class citizens of the empire? Does it make sense for a country to send their cream of the crop away? America was the early botany bay.But they did come together to form a government. I know I'm being a devils advocate here on this subject, but I always believe there is an untold side to most glorious exploits.
to be honest I haven't ever heard them called the Magnificent seven either, just thought the name fit sense they are always righttttttttt.--
lol... Never heard them called that but I am pretty sure I know the ring leader... From some of his post in the past I'm not sure he could be called the christian right though...
It does seem a little off center to see responses from here and other forums by folks who supposedly accept religious principles and then a post or two later are doing just the opposite... When I was growing up these folks were referred to as hypocrites but name calling isn't one of my strong points unless my buttons are pushed...
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Funny how you point out the flaws of folks on the board who are supposedly Christians.--
lol... Never heard them called that but I am pretty sure I know the ring leader... From some of his post in the past I'm not sure he could be called the christian right though...
It does seem a little off center to see responses from here and other forums by folks who supposedly accept religious principles and then a post or two later are doing just the opposite... When I was growing up these folks were referred to as hypocrites but name calling isn't one of my strong points unless my buttons are pushed...
We're ALL Americans......yet some of the practices advocated on this board by the Super 3 are clearly Un-American....
I'm a proud member of the "7". THANKS. I wear it as a badge of honor.
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The federalist authors were purebred AMERICANS. 3rd and 4th generation AMERICANS........Prime example of Do what I say, not what ! do. Do you think the best and brightest came to america, left the plush life, and convieniences of england to be second class citizens of the empire? Does it make sense for a country to send their cream of the crop away? America was the early botany bay.But they did come together to form a government. I know I'm being a devils advocate here on this subject, but I always believe there is an untold side to most glorious exploits.
James Madison -5th generation.
Alexander Hamilton - 4th generation. maybe 5th.
John Jay - 3rd generation.
Easy to find this stuff.
Have you ever read a single article? One.......Just one??
We are powerless to change history, even though we have the habit of repeating it. Small federal government was the idea, but like topsy things grow. did jefferson ever imagine a civil war, The idea of " manifest destiny" sprouted long after these early americans were gone.My God, just the amount of federal over sight to state govbernments exceeds any wild idea of how government grows and feeds on itself. I don't really care who the 7 or the 3 are. But I have an idea on the three. they share the "been there, did that" view.Yes we look back, we had a better america. Hope ot works out for you guys as well.
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What happened to the fifty-six men who signed the Declaration of Independence?
Five of the signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured. Nine of the fifty-six men fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed and pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.
Twenty-four of these men were lawyers and jurists; eleven were merchants; nine were farmers and large plantation owners. These were men of means and well educated. They signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well the penalty would be death if they were captured. Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealth planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.
Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and property was his reward.
Vandals and soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton. At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson Jr. noted the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to fire upon his home, which was destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.
John Hart was driven from his wife’s bedside as she was dying. Their thirteen children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later he died from exhaustion and a broken heart. Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.
Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: “For the support of the declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of the divine providence, we mutually pledged to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.”
They gave us a free America. The history books do not tell every story of what happened in the Revolutionary War, and a lot of good men’s sacrifices never got told, which happens even today. We did not fight just the British. We were British subjects at that time, and we fought our own government. These are the men we need to thank. Freedom is never free. We need along with our children know the sacrifices these men made, as well as, all our soldiers have made in our past wars. We need to know and never forget.
Those were men who became known for what they did, and yes they sacrificed. But other men died for our freedom, whose stories will never be told. What was life like for crispus attucks?, those who want to know will find out, but how many even knew who he was?
like paul harvey used to say, hetes the rest of the story. Who was the defense attorney for the british soldiers?
As I said earlier, I like to see and hear both sides of the tale, and sometimes theres even a third version. Beware some of the educators, they may have an ax to grind.
Proud to stand with a fellow that believes in God and the very values and morales to which it stands. I fail at being good sometimes and wish I could do better at holding my words. I do try to be a good person, but try.Funny how you point out the flaws of folks on the board who are supposedly Christians.
We're ALL Americans......yet some of the practices advocated on this board by the Super 3 are clearly Un-American....
I'm a proud member of the "7". THANKS. I wear it as a badge of honor.
I wish those that don't believe this is a Christian based nation would leave. Maybe move to some third world country and praise Allah and Obama their Muslim Gods. Most guys on this site I really like and would love to share a boat with. Others I wish to never meet might not be a good thing.
Obama is a fool and states things that he and his cronies think. If anybody really believes that America is only made up of 30% Christians has to be a complete and total idiot. Heck 20% of our business every year is churches and they darn sure aren't Mosques...
Thomas Jefferson was a remarkable man who started learning very early in life and never stopped:
At 5, began studying under his cousins’ tutor.
At 9, studied Latin, Greek and French.
At 14, studied classical literature and additional languages.
At 16, entered the College of William and Mary.
At 19, studied Law for 5 years starting under George Wythe.
At 23, started his own law practice.
At 25, was elected to the Virginia House of Burgesses.
At 31, wrote the widely circulated "Summary View of the Rights of British America" and retired from his law practice.
At 32, was a Delegate to the Second Continental Congress.
At 33, wrote the Declaration of Independence.
At 33, took three years to revise Virginia 's legal code and wrote a Public Education bill and a statute for Religious Freedom.
At 36, was elected the second Governor of Virginia succeeding Patrick Henry.
At 40, served in Congress for two years.
At 41, was the American minister to France and negotiated commercial treaties with European nations along with Ben Franklin and John Adams.
At 46, served as the first Secretary of State under George Washington.
At 53, served as Vice President and was elected president of the American Philosophical Society.
At 55, drafted the Kentucky Resolutions and became the active head of Republican Party.
At 57, was elected the third president of the United States.
At 60, obtained the Louisiana Purchase doubling the nation's size.
At 61, was elected to a second term as President.
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