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    In my opinion this is what happens when you change something that used to be primarily a hobby into instead a competitive sport. For many a persons love of outdoors and wildlife was as much a part of fishing as anything else. The quiet of being on the water, the sound of a bird or animal occasionally breaking that silence. Many fisherman have a real passion for the process and all the small slow details that go along with a day fishing but much of that is getting lost when the focus is solely on speed, numbers and winning. For myself one of the most fun moments when catching a fish is using light enough tackle to give him a fighting chance, playing him a little and then landing him. Of course there is nothing wrong with those that prefer a different approach but IMHO when using the heaviest tackle and motor boating a fish across the surface in a race to get him in the boat as fast as possible only in order to go on to the next one as fast as possible you lose something. It is no wonder so many people now bully their way past another fisherman or show little to no respect to others who are fishing near by. Since they themselves are overlooking much of the simple joys that come from a day on a lake why expect them to even understand or appreciate what it is that they are interrupting for someone else. I always viewed one of the great benefits of fishing was being able to just slow down and get off of life's conveyor belt for a few hours, away from people, phones competition etc. When fishing becomes primarily a competitive sport it becomes the antitheses of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Stewart View Post

    Right on the money. I live on the water making a living bass fishing. I see and experience people with no sense of etiquette virtually every day out there and it seems to be more so the past few years....and they are in bass boats, pontoon boats, pleasure boats etc....I don't see it coming anymore from tournament angler than I do others. I mark it up to their upbringing....seems less folks are taught manners and respect for others now days than in the past.I will however also say majorty of those out there are respectful..just seems more not now than in days past. Kind of like driving in traffic now day..more people weaving in and out of traffic and cutting folks off etc.
    It's not just competitive anglers. There are more inconsiderate people these days. Take a parking lot for example. You can park away from the door dingers all by yourself, and some idiot will be compelled to park too close to you. So close that you have to get in from the other side. God forbid you try to protect something nice . These are the same kind of people who feel compelled to fish on top of you, wake you with their pontoon, or buzz you with a jet ski. They can have the whole lake, but they just have force themselves on you. It is an Era of idiots. And the older I get, the less I tolerate it. Can't help but say something. Maybe it's a herd mentality. Or some ingrained sub-conscience moronic genetic defect. Just my two cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toomanycasts View Post
    It's not just competitive anglers. There are more inconsiderate people these days. Take a parking lot for example. You can park away from the door dingers all by yourself, and some idiot will be compelled to park too close to you. So close that you have to get in from the other side. God forbid you try to protect something nice . These are the same kind of people who feel compelled to fish on top of you, wake you with their pontoon, or buzz you with a jet ski. They can have the whole lake, but they just have force themselves on you. It is an Era of idiots. And the older I get, the less I tolerate it. Can't help but say something. Maybe it's a herd mentality. Or some ingrained sub-conscience moronic genetic defect. Just my two cents.
    Man the Door Dingers is spot on........I always park my truck away from everyone else. Hey, it's a BIG vehicle and I know the doors swing out.

    About once a week, some ******* needs to also park his vehicle out.........RIGHT next to mine, even though there fir 500 spaces right next to me that he could have taken. DRIVES me crazy.

    I cannot help I accidentally and very forcefully flail my door open on these occasions. .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhall View Post
    Most that know me on here know that I fish Cumberland a lot. What I'm seeing this year has me somewhat concerned and I will get slammed for this but I am going to say it anyway. I know it is a huge lake but how many tournaments should be held on a given body of water per year. Lakes like Nolin, Rough Taylorsville ect..how many? Is there a thing called too much?

    I was there this past Friday and I have never seen so many KVD wanna be's in one place in my life and on a week day no doubt. I tried being friendly with two ass wipes in Halcomb's parking lot and they acted like I had three heads and wasn't about to give away their big bad tourney pattern for I assume they were pre-fishing for a Saturday T by the way they were acting. Don't let the fish-n-ski non wrapped boat fool ya I probably could have helped the bungholes but screw'em I walked off after the rude behavior. Got cut off twice and once I say out loud...''REALLY...NO REALLY'' and they acted like punks laughing. Young guns all full of themselves..real bait slingers, LOL.

    I'm gonna just say it and I really don't care what I get afterwards so here goes. I am getting to the place where I hate tournaments. If it was up to me they would be sanctioned and regulated. Are they good for fishing yes to a degree but I don't like where its going at all with the rude asses and non caring for the lakes. I have buddies that tourney fish all the time and they won't like me saying this stuff but I had to vent it out.

    Friday I was catching a nice smallmouth in a very tight spot one hand dip net the other the rod. I about got washed out of the boat only for these two squirells to notice I had a good one on. They pass me and turn around and wash me again to see me net the fish I guess to see what I caught it on. I looked at them like are you serious....they slam her again and take off.

    Go ahead call me everything in the book I have been called much much worse and I ain't a bit skeered. Thank God not everybody acts like this but man its starting to get bad in my opinion.

    Have a nice day this is how I feel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KR View Post
    Cue Stripernut in....3....2.....1
    LMAO.....KR........... he has my back this much I know.......and I have his....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhall View Post
    Most that know me on here know that I fish Cumberland a lot. What I'm seeing this year has me somewhat concerned and I will get slammed for this but I am going to say it anyway. I know it is a huge lake but how many tournaments should be held on a given body of water per year. Lakes like Nolin, Rough Taylorsville ect..how many? Is there a thing called too much?

    I was there this past Friday and I have never seen so many KVD wanna be's in one place in my life and on a week day no doubt. I tried being friendly with two ass wipes in Halcomb's parking lot and they acted like I had three heads and wasn't about to give away their big bad tourney pattern for I assume they were pre-fishing for a Saturday T by the way they were acting. Don't let the fish-n-ski non wrapped boat fool ya I probably could have helped the bungholes but screw'em I walked off after the rude behavior. Got cut off twice and once I say out loud...''REALLY...NO REALLY'' and they acted like punks laughing. Young guns all full of themselves..real bait slingers, LOL.

    I'm gonna just say it and I really don't care what I get afterwards so here goes. I am getting to the place where I hate tournaments. If it was up to me they would be sanctioned and regulated. Are they good for fishing yes to a degree but I don't like where its going at all with the rude asses and non caring for the lakes. I have buddies that tourney fish all the time and they won't like me saying this stuff but I had to vent it out.

    Friday I was catching a nice smallmouth in a very tight spot one hand dip net the other the rod. I about got washed out of the boat only for these two squirells to notice I had a good one on. They pass me and turn around and wash me again to see me net the fish I guess to see what I caught it on. I looked at them like are you serious....they slam her again and take off.

    Go ahead call me everything in the book I have been called much much worse and I ain't a bit skeered. Thank God not everybody acts like this but man its starting to get bad in my opinion.

    Have a nice day this is how I feel.

    I used to go nuts on this board bitching about tournaments and everything you are saying and what I have experienced on the water has made me pretty much despise tournaments too. The points made on this thread are all mostly true - it is not all tournament fisherman that are rude by any stretch and there are many rude pleasure fisherman and of course pleasure boaters. But what it boils down to me is how tournaments absolutely dominate the water at certain times. I mostly fish Barkley and Ky and Saturdays during prime season (like now) are absolutely the worst days to try to be on the water. There are so many tournament and other boats too that it can be a joke trying to find a spot without a boat on it. Add in how most want to gun it as soon as they start moving and run full out until zipping past you like you aren't there, dropping it on top of where they want to start regardless of who is close, and jump up on that trolling motor like their first born were on the line and you know what day it is. I definitely show my age and attitude as I drop it down long before I plan to stop and idle for long distances trying to take in what sights and sounds there are to behold in that area sometimes sitting there for several minutes after shutting her down to continue to take it in. I just have a hard time understanding how it is square to have umpteen tournaments with hundreds of boats all converging on the same water on the same day with little to no oversight. Since I am purely a pleasure fisherman and try to enjoy all the little things that SLP mentioned I generally avoid fishing Saturday mornings into the afternoon and since I still work Monday to Friday like most that takes a big chunk of free time out to unwind on the water. I can't wait until the day I can walk away from that and find the freedom to fish any day of the week I want. Saturdays during season will be totally off limits then. It is sad what the competitive side of this past time has taken us to. And for those of you who try to back peddle on the comments and support the tournament side - you know what I am saying. I have watched blast-offs and late afternoon returns with bass boat after bass boat for over an hour and you just know what it is going to be like on the water that day and no those aren't pleasure fisherman or pleasure boaters going by for that hour. Nuts...


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    Quote Originally Posted by kc View Post
    I used to go nuts on this board bitching about tournaments and everything you are saying and what I have experienced on the water has made me pretty much despise tournaments too. The points made on this thread are all mostly true - it is not all tournament fisherman that are rude by any stretch and there are many rude pleasure fisherman and of course pleasure boaters. But what it boils down to me is how tournaments absolutely dominate the water at certain times. I mostly fish Barkley and Ky and Saturdays during prime season (like now) are absolutely the worst days to try to be on the water. There are so many tournament and other boats too that it can be a joke trying to find a spot without a boat on it. Add in how most want to gun it as soon as they start moving and run full out until zipping past you like you aren't there, dropping it on top of where they want to start regardless of who is close, and jump up on that trolling motor like their first born were on the line and you know what day it is. I definitely show my age and attitude as I drop it down long before I plan to stop and idle for long distances trying to take in what sights and sounds there are to behold in that area sometimes sitting there for several minutes after shutting her down to continue to take it in. I just have a hard time understanding how it is square to have umpteen tournaments with hundreds of boats all converging on the same water on the same day with little to no oversight. Since I am purely a pleasure fisherman and try to enjoy all the little things that SLP mentioned I generally avoid fishing Saturday mornings into the afternoon and since I still work Monday to Friday like most that takes a big chunk of free time out to unwind on the water. I can't wait until the day I can walk away from that and find the freedom to fish any day of the week I want. Saturdays during season will be totally off limits then. It is sad what the competitive side of this past time has taken us to. And for those of you who try to back peddle on the comments and support the tournament side - you know what I am saying. I have watched blast-offs and late afternoon returns with bass boat after bass boat for over an hour and you just know what it is going to be like on the water that day and no those aren't pleasure fisherman or pleasure boaters going by for that hour. Nuts...


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    This was as much or more of my point of this thread than anything and you are saying the same thing. What is to many and is it way to much.....I say yes and it needs some form of regulation and I am a staunch conservative and usually hate gov regulations. I mean seriously take a lake any lake and tell me this time of year isn't just stupid with tournaments. I have litterally quit fishing on Saturdays as I don't want to compete with a hundred plus bass sleds for every point or bay. It is just crazy and something needs to be done but it won't.

    Money will always rule the day. I would love to see the slot on smallmouth at Cumberland like Dale. In fact make it even more agressive and start running these tourney's away and it will. The Cumberland river spiked in elevation when the slot was implemented on Dale from all the tears shed. I heard it all...F that lake I will never be back, blah blah blah. Well now they are back and hammering it to but still not as bad as the big C. Are we trying to protect our fisheries or some jackwad trying to be like Ike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mhall View Post
    This was as much or more of my point of this thread than anything and you are saying the same thing. What is to many and is it way to much.....I say yes and it needs some form of regulation and I am a staunch conservative and usually hate gov regulations. I mean seriously take a lake any lake and tell me this time of year isn't just stupid with tournaments. I have litterally quit fishing on Saturdays as I don't want to compete with a hundred plus bass sleds for every point or bay. It is just crazy and something needs to be done but it won't.

    Money will always rule the day. I would love to see the slot on smallmouth at Cumberland like Dale. In fact make it even more agressive and start running these tourney's away and it will. The Cumberland river spiked in elevation when the slot was implemented on Dale from all the tears shed. I heard it all...F that lake I will never be back, blah blah blah. Well now they are back and hammering it to but still not as bad as the big C. Are we trying to protect our fisheries or some jackwad trying to be like Ike.

    I know what you mean as I too am a staunch conservative and the thought of even suggesting regulation brings up a lump in my throat but something has got to give. So far it has been me adapting my plans and activities to avoid the onslaught.

    The slot on Cumberland would be awesome and I don't even know why it is even a discussion point not to do it. Anything to benefit the fishery is the way to go but as you said to often money interests overrule. Sad...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kc View Post
    I know what you mean as I too am a staunch conservative and the thought of even suggesting regulation brings up a lump in my throat but something has got to give. So far it has been me adapting my plans and activities to avoid the onslaught.

    The slot on Cumberland would be awesome and I don't even know why it is even a discussion point not to do it. Anything to benefit the fishery is the way to go but as you said to often money interests overrule. Sad...
    Are we related......LOL

    You ''get it'' bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by mhall View Post
    Are we related......LOL

    You ''get it'' bro
    We must be brothers from different mothers. Smallies are just plain sacred to me and I take it they are for you too. But I chase mine more in the western part of the state (just not on Saturdays)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kc View Post
    We must be brothers from different mothers. Smallies are just plain sacred to me and I take it they are for you too. But I chase mine more in the western part of the state (just not on Saturdays)...

    kc
    Yes sir they are the greatest fish that swims and sacred to me as well. BTW kc I will be catching them in two weeks in St Clair man I can't even sleep at night right now for the dreams.....

    We just think we have smallmouth lakes here St Clair and the Great lakes are beyond good its not even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhall View Post
    Most that know me on here know that I fish Cumberland a lot. What I'm seeing this year has me somewhat concerned and I will get slammed for this but I am going to say it anyway. I know it is a huge lake but how many tournaments should be held on a given body of water per year. Lakes like Nolin, Rough Taylorsville ect..how many? Is there a thing called too much?

    I was there this past Friday and I have never seen so many KVD wanna be's in one place in my life and on a week day no doubt. I tried being friendly with two ass wipes in Halcomb's parking lot and they acted like I had three heads and wasn't about to give away their big bad tourney pattern for I assume they were pre-fishing for a Saturday T by the way they were acting. Don't let the fish-n-ski non wrapped boat fool ya I probably could have helped the bungholes but screw'em I walked off after the rude behavior. Got cut off twice and once I say out loud...''REALLY...NO REALLY'' and they acted like punks laughing. Young guns all full of themselves..real bait slingers, LOL.

    I'm gonna just say it and I really don't care what I get afterwards so here goes. I am getting to the place where I hate tournaments. If it was up to me they would be sanctioned and regulated. Are they good for fishing yes to a degree but I don't like where its going at all with the rude asses and non caring for the lakes. I have buddies that tourney fish all the time and they won't like me saying this stuff but I had to vent it out.

    Friday I was catching a nice smallmouth in a very tight spot one hand dip net the other the rod. I about got washed out of the boat only for these two squirells to notice I had a good one on. They pass me and turn around and wash me again to see me net the fish I guess to see what I caught it on. I looked at them like are you serious....they slam her again and take off.

    Go ahead call me everything in the book I have been called much much worse and I ain't a bit skeered. Thank God not everybody acts like this but man its starting to get bad in my opinion.

    Have a nice day this is how I feel.
    Couldn't agree more, it's not just Cumberland either, nor is it just bass tourneys; they're practically ruining every lake in the State. Regulations are coming though, rest assured.

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