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    I am pro violence when it comes to weapons like this. Destroy the poop hole and if we are wrong then I would rather be wrong with a sand pit formally known as Iran than an intact fully functionql nuclear weapon program that Iran can use.
    I believe the potus and the Libs theory of "talking" to Iran is foolish, since when does talking to a country and laying out a play nice treaty work?? I believe both police parties have made mistakes with that method. When will we learn????
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    DJD you may be right but

    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    I am pro violence when it comes to weapons like this. Destroy the poop hole and if we are wrong then I would rather be wrong with a sand pit formally known as Iran than an intact fully functionql nuclear weapon program that Iran can use.
    I believe the potus and the Libs theory of "talking" to Iran is foolish, since when does talking to a country and laying out a play nice treaty work?? I believe both police parties have made mistakes with that method. When will we learn????
    if we act now and fail to take out the weapons site(S) there will be hell to pay. What do you think China, Russia and Pakistan will do if we were to try to nuke Iran? They will not stand by and allow us to do that. It could easily ignite WWIII and destroy everyone. That's not a very wise thing to do or even think about. Were you here when we went though the Cuban Missile Crisis? I was here then and didn't forget that as it scared the hell out of everyone. And back then Russia had far fewer Nukes and less powerful Nukes that what they have today. And the Chinese didn't even figure into the equation back 1963. I would not want to repeat the mistakes that were made back then by both sides. Russian subs were within range of many of our surface ships and were loaded with atomic weapons in the form of torpedoes that if shot at the US Forces would have destroyed a lot of people and ships and surely ignited WWIII then.

    And I'm not so sure that we have enough conventional arms to fully destroy Iran. It's a pretty big country. We are still trying to win in Iraq and Syria and Libia where Bush started three different wars. Yes those wars are still ongoing dispite what Bush and Cheney told us. The Iraqi Army took off their uniforms and vanished into the populace only to come out of hiding in the form of ISIS. Note I said ISIS as there was really no Al Queda in Iraq when we went into Iraq to get Saddam. Now everyone knows that. Iraq didn't have nuclear weapons and either got ride of the chemical weapons or were afraid to use them against the USA Troops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    if we act now and fail to take out the weapons site(S) there will be hell to pay. What do you think China, Russia and Pakistan will do if we were to try to nuke Iran? They will not stand by and allow us to do that. It could easily ignite WWIII and destroy everyone. That's not a very wise thing to do or even think about. Were you here when we went though the Cuban Missile Crisis? I was here then and didn't forget that as it scared the hell out of everyone. And back then Russia had far fewer Nukes and less powerful Nukes that what they have today. And the Chinese didn't even figure into the equation back 1963. I would not want to repeat the mistakes that were made back then by both sides. Russian subs were within range of many of our surface ships and were loaded with atomic weapons in the form of torpedoes that if shot at the US Forces would have destroyed a lot of people and ships and surely ignited WWIII then.

    And I'm not so sure that we have enough conventional arms to fully destroy Iran. It's a pretty big country. We are still trying to win in Iraq and Syria and Libia where Bush started three different wars. Yes those wars are still ongoing dispite what Bush and Cheney told us. The Iraqi Army took off their uniforms and vanished into the populace only to come out of hiding in the form of ISIS. Note I said ISIS as there was really no Al Queda in Iraq when we went into Iraq to get Saddam. Now everyone knows that. Iraq didn't have nuclear weapons and either got ride of the chemical weapons or were afraid to use them against the USA Troops.
    What I remember is that Obama and any Liberal with a microphone said we need to be nice and talk it out (6-7 years ago) with the Islamic state which includes Iran....look where that got us. We even had that idiot from Iran speaking at Columbia University here in the USA and he wasn't all that kind to us with his words.

    These copied articles are not slamming Obama all the way but just an example of what he campaigned on and yes tried. I just think his attempt at being "presidential" got us to this point.

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...-with-iran.php

    http://iranprimer.usip.org/resource/...administration

    http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/...-for-gop-obama

    I'm not a politician...thank GOD!! They lie to us and themselves so much that they get backed into corners and flip flop all the time. I'm just sick and tired of all the crap over there. I'm also sick and tired of Obama and his lies, his media darling pedestal he was put on and how they are just now really calling it like it is. I mean come on he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize??? For what??

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    gasoline spike

    the price of our fuel has little to do with iran and Iraq anymore. WE ARE EXPORTING CRUDE AND REFINED PRODUCT. when the embargo is lifted, there will be more crude on the market, and we will still be paying premium prices. Here in glasgow all the stations are about the same, and most of them areowned by two parties. Nukes! Who dosn't have them? I remember the cold war, and the "put your head as far between your legs as you can, and kiss yer butt goodbye" Fall out shelters. Public shelters that were always close to enough water to drown youin if they were needed.. We had three nike sites with in 15 miles of where we lived. We tried to force democracy down other peoples throats, and they couldn't swallow it. WE OVER THREW THE GOVERNMENT IN IRAN, AND WE REAPED WHAT WE SOWED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    the price of our fuel has little to do with iran and Iraq anymore. WE ARE EXPORTING CRUDE AND REFINED PRODUCT. when the embargo is lifted, there will be more crude on the market, and we will still be paying premium prices. Here in glasgow all the stations are about the same, and most of them areowned by two parties. Nukes! Who dosn't have them? I remember the cold war, and the "put your head as far between your legs as you can, and kiss yer butt goodbye" Fall out shelters. Public shelters that were always close to enough water to drown youin if they were needed.. We had three nike sites with in 15 miles of where we lived. We tried to force democracy down other peoples throats, and they couldn't swallow it. WE OVER THREW THE GOVERNMENT IN IRAN, AND WE REAPED WHAT WE SOWED.
    No doubt about it....anymore anything can be used as an excuse to raise fuel prices. A storm, a statement by a gubmnet official and on and on...
    As far as Nukes go I would rather work toward stopping a country like Iran from having them if possible...heck they may have them now?!?!? But I wouldn't give up the fight to stop them.
    i don't like being the police of the world but to an extent we have to work with countries. What bothers me the most is we either pick a fight or react to an attack and then we put the gloves on. If we would just destroy the enemy and get it over with I think we would be better off.
    My personal opinion and hope is we won't see them used again. It's still not comforting to know some of these radical countries have them or are working toward having them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    No doubt about it....anymore anything can be used as an excuse to raise fuel prices. A storm, a statement by a gubmnet official and on and on...
    As far as Nukes go I would rather work toward stopping a country like Iran from having them if possible...heck they may have them now?!?!? But I wouldn't give up the fight to stop them.
    i don't like being the police of the world but to an extent we have to work with countries. What bothers me the most is we either pick a fight or react to an attack and then we put the gloves on. If we would just destroy the enemy and get it over with I think we would be better off.
    My personal opinion and hope is we won't see them used again. It's still not comforting to know some of these radical countries have them or are working toward having them.
    Well.......the future price of oil and the current cost of gasoline products have moved at a very similar rate. Futures have OIL up about 20 % over the past 4 months. And the cost of gasoline us up about 20%......

    MARKET FORCES drive this stuff.....nothing else.

    http://www.barchart.com/commodityfut...WTI_Futures/CL

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