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    Quote Originally Posted by Mean Morone View Post
    There is a reason that Supreme court justices should interpret the law, not make it. Nowhere in the constitution does it say that they have the power to write law. With their ruling(only took 5 of them), they not only nullified Religious rights, but turned hundreds, if not thousands of Christians in this country who work for the government, into potential criminals over night. There is currently a black lesbian judge in Texas that will not grant marriages to straight people. She is still a judge and nothing has (or will) happened to her. It's getting to the point that Christians will not be able to work in government because of all the social engineering that's been going on for a very long time now. Government isn't(shouldn't)be in the business of doing anything but protecting us. From what I understand, the KY clerk has no problem giving the piece of paper, she just doesn't want her name on it. She asked the government to compromise by taking her name off, but got a big no. Lets see what the legislature does when they finally get together. The 5 judges in black in their humanistic wisdom have nullified states rights too. Not what our founders had in mind. These 5 judges have nullified the will of millions of people in all 50 states(57 if you are a BO supporter), so voting on the issue isn't an option. There are 3 branches of government(unless you are a BO supporter) and the 5 justices belong to one of the branches that can't make law. What a mess. It's open season on Christianity. Christians will continue to get rolled because they don't fight back. One of the reasons Christians first came to this country was because of religious persecution. They started off good, even coming up with a constitution, but it has been misread, misinterpreted, rewritten, and just plain ignored to the point where Christians are being thrown in jail without bond for their beliefs. I do like to see Liberals turn on one of their own for a change. If the clerk had just had an affair in her office with a young intern, lied to a grand jury about it, asked others to lie, bomb an aspirin factory, kill a janitor in Iraq, or maybe delete thousands of emails, lie about them, lie about Benghazi, claim a vast right wing conspiracy, then maybe she would get some support.
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    She has offered to compromise. The government is the one that doesn't want to compromise. They are the ones that turned her in to a criminal. It's ridiculous that she had to spend 6 days in jail. The day before that judgment, she was in no trouble. The Governor had no trouble making "adjustments" to the law so it would read differently, but he remains silent when it comes to making minor adjustments on anyone else's behalf. I think she has followed man's law right up to the point it conflicted with God's law. I kind of like this law, "Government shall make no laws establishing religion or infringing the free exercise thereof", or something to that effect. Christianity isn't something you leave at the door when you leave your house, it's who you are. You can't separate it out, so you don't have any option but to exercise your faith(unless the government infringes on it). God is the one who established marriage between a man and a woman. 5 judges in black robes decided differently. God didn't need a piece of paper to show marriage, man is the one that started that nonsense so he could control his fellow man. Now look where it's gotten us. Maybe man is right and all Christians should resign and get out of Government. Yes I remember all the citizens so upset with Bill Clinton when he was breaking the law. That's right, he was re-elected. Maybe we should see if she gets re elected. BO chooses which laws he will enforce and when Arizona decides to go ahead and enforce the laws on the books, he sues them to keep them from enforcing the laws he chose to ignore. No big deal. Wow, we have come a long way from a country established by mostly Christians, to having BO say that we are no longer a Christian nation. Change you can believe in. Man got us in this mess, man should fix it.

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    Confused

    How come a person who swore to uphold the Constitution and defend the country against all enemies foreign and domestic, has the right to be:

    A conscientious objector (CO) is an "individual who has claimed the right to refuse to perform military service" on the grounds of freedom of thought, conscience, and/or religion.

    Yet a clerk who swore to follow the laws of the Commonwealth can't do the same?

    Not a supporter, but if religious beliefs are a strong enough basis for not defending the country in time of war, then don't ya think we might have some same level of tolerance for an administrative clerk?

    I think she did go to jail, because she refuse the judges order to follow the law. I think if she had said to the judge "As boss of the office, I will comply, and tell my staff to do so, but I for one will not pen a license with my name", I think she'd been just okay. But she didn't say that, she defied the courts authority, and that court reacted properly in my mind by putting her in jail.

    If one holds public office, they are judged not only by their own personal conduct, but also by the leadership ad guidance they give to their subordinates, their staff.

    It's like an Army platoon leader, who in the midst of a fire fight, tells his men to seek shelter, then he himself charges the guns to try to save his men. Had the clerk said " I'll do my job as a leader, keep my people out of harms way, and instruct them to comply, but I will stand and charge the guns", I think the judge would have given her the okey-dokey.

    After all, that's how she got out, the agreement for her release was that while she would not pen a license, shed make sure her staff followed the law, so that the law that for better or worse now allows a license to be granted, would in fact get granted.

    Hey you folks with military background. How many times did you get an order that you hated to follow, but did because it was your duty to do so, and even more importantly, you wanted to be standing with your men/subordinates if the decision you hated to follow did turn out bad? Thats what the clerk should have done. But she got on her pedestal, left her folks hanging in the wind, and as a result got wacked for it.

    PS: If she had vacation time accrued, shed be well with in her rights to use that to cover her jail time away from work. She was not AWOL, because her bosses had notice via the court announcement when she went to the hoose-gal. She has earned her annual vacation time as part of her compensation package, just like fed employees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mean Morone View Post
    Maybe we should see if she gets re elected.
    I hope she does, cause it will keep her off the streets during duty hours. :-0

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