you re going to show your age talking flip tail worms . i can remember fishing with Jim White, 40 years ago, at rough river lake , using black fliptail worms. used a hook with a wire guard, and just hooked them thru the head, like they hook worms for dropshoting. i dont remember the fish i caught with them, but the one that got off , i cant forget. about six pounds.oh well . goodfishing