Speaking of jumps, I saw my most and longest jumps in November of last year up in Indian creek. And no, there was not a sign of the mysterious fleet of 79 striper boats anywhere in the area. Each year can be different, time, water temperature and fish population. But if you are a fisherman, would you trade one bad day on the water for a good day at work? PS: are there any recent publications from KDFWR on fish surveys for LC? I know they have to be down from pre Wolf Creel Dam work.