[QUOTE=Duayne;551205]Update: The fish continue to move area and depth wise daily. You can't simply go back to where you found them the day before and expect them to be there and you can't expect them to be at the same depth, although 40-45 ft lines have been the most productive. We've switched to shiners mostly while mixing in some alewives and threadfins. Bait catching slows greatly on nights with no cloud cover for the full moon. There are fewer bites but the bites turn into solid hookups with the shiners. Yesterday it was down lines and boards 2/3 back on sheer bluff walls. Planer boards early and deep down rods later just off the bottom. It's possible that bottom fishing would productive but it's not something I would do with shiners.[/QUOTEt la e]

I fished yesterday without any luck with planer boards but caught 2 on down lines on bluff walls about 40 feet deep with shiners. Saw a guide bottom several places and talked with him later and he mentioned during the last week he has not had any luck with planer boards fishing several different creeks. He is catching more catfish this fall and he thinks many of the fish stacked up on your fish finders are really catfish. He has not seen any "jumps" in about 3 weeks. We talked about the lake turning over and how much this has affected the "jumps" recently.

Went out late Tuesday afternoon casting the banks with a doll fly without any luck. I ended up snagging a lot of young bushes/trees while casting the banks. I was interested in people thoughts about casting the banks--would you target banks clear of trees or not. I am a novice casting the banks for fall/winter stripers, so any advice would be appreciated.