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    The newspaper went subscription only to read it yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    I would have been nice to see a link to the story instead a bunch of bloviating about how great solar energy is.

    Here you go:

    http://news.duke-energy.com/releases...ana-naval-base
    The story link I must have left out. And yesterday the newspaper that I got the story from went to a subscription only reading phase. I can still see the main page but if I try to click on any of the news stories I get a page asking for a subscription before I can read the articles. They will now lose about half or more of the people that read their newspaper online. They were allowing a limited number (20) stories to be read before one got that message and got locked out). I used a program to remove the cookies that they put on my computer to see how many times I had read the stories but that's not working any more.

    Sorry George. Thanks for the link. I've not read it yet but will go take a look at it now.

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    Something to think about when the lights go out someday

    What if the terrorists figure out how to take down the Electrical Grid in the USA? What if the power were to go out for not just a few hours but days or even months. What would you do with the food in your freezer or refrigerator if you didn't have electrical power? What would you do if the lights all went out all across the North American Continent?


    I just got a email today showing some thing from Fox News and it was talking about a book written by someone about this very thing. Which got me thinking. Then I came back to fishing.com and read this thread again. Which got me to thinking some more.

    What if everyone in the USA had their own solar generator and also a fuel cell in their house? We would not need a power grid as much as now. We could all generate our own power. Fuel cells run off Hydrogen and Oxygen gases and produce pure water and electricity. Solar cells generate electricity which can be used to make hydrogen and oxygen though electrolysis. It's a never ending cycle of power as long as the sun shines. And Terrorists have not nor will they ever figure out a way to block out the sun. So we would be safer if we all had a fuel cell power generator and solar panels in our homes. Now the USA has a way to protect itself form the terrorists taking down our power grids.

    Did you know that power plants are operated and controlled with computers these days. So is the power grid. All the terrorists have to do is figure out how to get control of those computer and they can shut things down. It's been tried already and who knows if they were successful or not. If the power did go out do you think our government would admit that they screwed up and allowed the terrorists hacker access to the computers that control the power grid? Probably know. They would probably tell us that a squirrel got caught up in the power lines and blew some transformers or something to that effect until they could get things back up and running.

    Japan just had some more powerful earth quakes. The last time this happened it knocked out three or four of the Fukushima Nuclear Facilities and radiation is still leaking out of those plants today. So that disaster along with three mile island and a few others have put a huge damper on the demand for nuclear power plants.

    I also read another story about the City or Town of Jasper, IN or maybe it was Huntingburg, IN where the town council voted to tax anyone with a solar power setup on their roofs 50 dollars a month. I saw this on twitter actually. Why would anyone on the city council vote to do such a thing. Think about this for a minute. Who wants to stop solar energy from being more wildly used? Who's in completion with solar energy? Where do we get our electricity from today. And what is being used to produce this power? What's in the earth that we have to dig up and transport to the power plant before it's burned? OK you probably have the answer now. So why would the city council people vote to tax or slow down the growth of solar panels on their citizens roofs? If it's an eye sore then why don't they tax every telephone pole in the city as to me that is more of an eye sore than a solar panel on the roofs. We could get rid of all the power poles in America and be much better off if everyone could produce their own clean power right at their own home or factory. Yes this can be scaled up and used for factories and business as well as homes.

    I posted about this a while back when I was talking about fuel cells used to power vehicles. Other countries are using them right now to power the submarines. And if a war were to break out those submarines would be more potent that the German U Boat were in the beginning of WWII. As they can stay under water for up to 3 weeks or more at a time. They don't have to surface to recharge their batteries like the U Boats of WWII had to do.

    Anyway it's just something to think about for the future. I doubt it will happen any time soon. But as the cost of solar panels comes down and the cost of burning coal goes up there will be a change in America Someday. Let's home it's a more gradual change instead of something dramatic like a terrorist taking down our nations power grids with a simple computer hack. The thought of this happening is spine chilling. Better get your survival gear on or wear you little Tin Hats.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    The story link I must have left out. And yesterday the newspaper that I got the story from went to a subscription only reading phase. I can still see the main page but if I try to click on any of the news stories I get a page asking for a subscription before I can read the articles. They will now lose about half or more of the people that read their newspaper online. They were allowing a limited number (20) stories to be read before one got that message and got locked out). I used a program to remove the cookies that they put on my computer to see how many times I had read the stories but that's not working any more.

    Sorry George. Thanks for the link. I've not read it yet but will go take a look at it now.
    I'd love to see solar and alternatives being used effectively.........unfortunately, Fossil fuels and coal still are more efficient and effective.

    I do believe we will continue to see significant headway in battery technologies, and as those technologies get better, the idea of solar or wind or even fuel cell becomes more reliable, cost effective, and readily available. Will it really happen in my lifetime.....I don't know.

    Later,

    Geo

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    Thinking in the long term

    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    I'd love to see solar and alternatives being used effectively.........unfortunately, Fossil fuels and coal still are more efficient and effective.

    I do believe we will continue to see significant headway in battery technologies, and as those technologies get better, the idea of solar or wind or even fuel cell becomes more reliable, cost effective, and readily available. Will it really happen in my lifetime.....I don't know.

    Later,

    Geo
    Yes that's right it may not happen in my lifetime as I'm old and tired. But the next generation and the one's after them will need to figure this out when we run low on the carbon fuels and they become harder to dig up and process.

    I hate to see anyone lose their job but the future means we will have to change our ways eventually in order to survive as a species. We need to adapt or die. And humans have always been great at adapting. That is why there are billions of humans living on this earth today.

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