OK guys

[roadrunner]

Yes lets go back to corruption, but how about 20+ years. How about bringing back american manufactoring back. the jobs and companies left us. Build up the military, yes DRAFT. And put the bible back in church, not in tax payer schools There are plenty of secular schools, if you want a religious education YOU pay for it. I did.

I would much rather put bibles and prayers in tax funded schools than pay for abortions with tax payer dollars. As long as their are test in schools their will be prayers. I see no problem with teams praying for a safe game if someone does not want to participate they have that option and they should always start the day with the pledge.

Another thing I like about Trump is if we have to bail out another Country they can pay for the help and we need to stop being the only country to fund NATO which is a joke as they put some of the worst violators in charge of or have a seat on committees that they have a reputation of being one of the worst violators. and we can't do anything to stop it. I love the fact he is going to get rid of Political Correctness and he is not a career politician Our founding fathers never dreamed we would have career politicians. These guys have voted themselves large salaries and ridiculous retirement packages. It is such a lucrative job that they are afraid to make the hard votes that are right for America because it might end their great job. their are some things I do not like about Trump but their is nothing I like about Hillary.

[kygorski]

If we pay teachers to preach, then it becomes mandatory. I believe in freedom of and from religion. My son is a teacher, he gets paid by the state. He also teaches religious education at church on sunday evenings, he gets no pay.I'm a christian, and my bible is the new testament.The teachings of Jesus, who is GOD if you know your nicene creed. I attended parochial school for a few years,and if I wanted to pray in public school I did, silently. This hullalballo about teaching the 10 commandments, should be done in church, with encouragement to OBEY them.

[kygorski]

How do you guys feel about being responsible for YOUR choices? I was a volenteer, When ever I had a gripe[the other term is deemed un suitabe], my standard retort was "YOU ASKED FOR,NOW EAT IT UP". In my time the odds of being called up were pretty high, it was a waiting game, you waited for the call to duty, do it, and then get on with your life.I didn't wait for the shoe to drop. I appreciate what our service men are doing, my step dad was career,all my uncles were called up for WW11. We are NOT in a declared war.Our military is being used for regime change, and empire building. During the kuwait fiasco, one of neighbors unit was called up, he was on the verge of tears, how would his family cope, he quickly forgot the 10 years of of gravy he got.But he asked for it, no one held a gun to his head and made him go.He suffered some monetary loss, and felt the government should make him whole. When his contract was up, he bailed. But the longer we have a volunteer service, the more casualitys we are going to pay for. The longer we keep our noses in places where it can get shot off, the greater the burden we bare.And they chose to be there, they put themselves in harms way, and someof them feel that we owe them for their choices.Do we?

[waterdog101]

How do you guys feel about being responsible for YOUR choices? I was a volenteer, When ever I had a gripe[the other term is deemed un suitabe], my standard retort was "YOU ASKED FOR,NOW EAT IT UP". In my time the odds of being called up were pretty high, it was a waiting game, you waited for the call to duty, do it, and then get on with your life.I didn't wait for the shoe to drop. I appreciate what our service men are doing, my step dad was career,all my uncles were called up for WW11. We are NOT in a declared war.Our military is being used for regime change, and empire building. During the kuwait fiasco, one of neighbors unit was called up, he was on the verge of tears, how would his family cope, he quickly forgot the 10 years of of gravy he got.But he asked for it, no one held a gun to his head and made him go.He suffered some monetary loss, and felt the government should make him whole. When his contract was up, he bailed. But the longer we have a volunteer service, the more casualitys we are going to pay for. The longer we keep our noses in places where it can get shot off, the greater the burden we bare.And they chose to be there, they put themselves in harms way, and someof them feel that we owe them for their choices.Do we?

the politicians in washington will never put the draft back in place, it would put their rich sons in danger, of being called up for service, they would rather pay the poor kids to fill the military and call it a volunteer military, let them remove the money and see how many volunteer just from being patriotic. if the draft was reinstated, the rich guys in Washington wouldn't be so quick to beat the war drums, because their sons may have to strap on the combat boots.

[Dave Stewart]

How do you guys feel about being responsible for YOUR choices? I was a volenteer, When ever I had a gripe[the other term is deemed un suitabe], my standard retort was "YOU ASKED FOR,NOW EAT IT UP". In my time the odds of being called up were pretty high, it was a waiting game, you waited for the call to duty, do it, and then get on with your life.I didn't wait for the shoe to drop. I appreciate what our service men are doing, my step dad was career,all my uncles were called up for WW11. We are NOT in a declared war.Our military is being used for regime change, and empire building. During the kuwait fiasco, one of neighbors unit was called up, he was on the verge of tears, how would his family cope, he quickly forgot the 10 years of of gravy he got.But he asked for it, no one held a gun to his head and made him go.He suffered some monetary loss, and felt the government should make him whole. When his contract was up, he bailed. But the longer we have a volunteer service, the more casualitys we are going to pay for. The longer we keep our noses in places where it can get shot off, the greater the burden we bare.And they chose to be there, they put themselves in harms way, and someof them feel that we owe them for their choices.Do we?

So what are you trying to say here? Are you trying to say that those that serve as volunteers rather than serving because they were drafted do not deserve to receive the benefits the government promised them when they agreed to sign their enlistment contracts?

Military personnel do not choose where they are ordered to serve or the missions given them, that decision is made by the political leaders ie....Congress or the President. When you enlist you take an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States and follow and obey the orders of those appointed above you....ie...the President is appointed as Command In Chief of the armed forces by the people that elect him or her. Again, military personnel do not make the decisions as to when and where they serve.

I too was a volunteer not drafted. I served for 26 years at my own choice. I also performed duties during that 26 years that would rather have not been doing which included serving in harm's way. No soldier wants to go to combat any more than any policeman or firefighter that volunteered to do those jobs wants to put their lives on the line to serve you...but it is what they agreed to do so that their families and you can enjoy the freedoms you have and be safe from those that would deny you those freedoms and safety.

Those that volunteer to serve, be it in the military, law enforcement or as fire fighters, para medics and a number of other professions know that they are committed to serve at times in harm's way....it is what they agreed to do when they agreed to serve.

When a person volunteers to serve in the military they are promised certain benefits by the government (elected by you as their representatives so basically by you) such as retirement after so many years, medical care for them and their families and some other benefits as incentives for serving. One of these benefits includes receiving compensation and medical care if they are killed or disabled in the line of duty while they are serving.

Seems to me you are advocating that because someone volunteers to serve in the military that they or their families should not receive these benefits they were promised if they are serving in harm's way in places that the politicians (elected by you) sent them because where they are is not a declared war or not in line with your wishes.

Do I think you owe me those benefits because I was a volunteer. Your **** right I do. I made a commitment to you and you, through your elected representatives made a promise to me. I did my part...now do yours.

[roadrunner]

So what are you trying to say here? Are you trying to say that those that serve as volunteers rather than serving because they were drafted do not deserve to receive the benefits the government promised them when they agreed to sign their enlistment contracts?

Military personnel do not choose where they are ordered to serve or the missions given them, that decision is made by the political leaders ie....Congress or the President. When you enlist you take an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States and follow and obey the orders of those appointed above you....ie...the President is appointed as Command In Chief of the armed forces by the people that elect him or her. Again, military personnel do not make the decisions as to when and where they serve.

I too was a volunteer not drafted. I served for 26 years at my own choice. I also performed duties during that 26 years that would rather have not been doing which included serving in harm's way. No soldier wants to go to combat any more than any policeman or firefighter that volunteered to do those jobs wants to put their lives on the line to serve you...but it is what they agreed to do so that their families and you can enjoy the freedoms you have and be safe from those that would deny you those freedoms and safety.

Those that volunteer to serve, be it in the military, law enforcement or as fire fighters, para medics and a number of other professions know that they are committed to serve at times in harm's way....it is what they agreed to do when they agreed to serve.

When a person volunteers to serve in the military they are promised certain benefits by the government (elected by you as their representatives so basically by you) such as retirement after so many years, medical care for them and their families and some other benefits as incentives for serving. One of these benefits includes receiving compensation and medical care if they are killed or disabled in the line of duty while they are serving.

Seems to me you are advocating that because someone volunteers to serve in the military that they or their families should not receive these benefits they were promised if they are serving in harm's way in places that the politicians (elected by you) sent them because where they are is not a declared war or not in line with your wishes.

Do I think you owe me those benefits because I was a volunteer. Your **** right I do. I made a commitment to you and you, through your elected representatives made a promise to me. I did my part...now do yours.

First thank you fot your 26 years service, all veterans deserve everything they were promised and should not be treated the way they are. I agree with Trump and have said this every since we found out veterans were dying in line if you can't get in to a V A system they should be able to go to a hospital of there choice and the V A should cover the cost. There should be a study to see if it would be cheaper to just let veterans go to there doctor and hospital of choice and the VA pay the bill

[kygorski]

I spent almost a month in a field hospital.No, I wasn't disabled afterwards. And I didn't have any gripes about the treatment, it was critical. What brought my tirade on, was a vet, using VA benefits, Bit---g about nobahma care.This turkey didn't know the difference between medicare and medicaid. The hardships my neighbors family endured, when he was called up. That was part of the package, he asked for, and never expected to have happen.He put himself in that position. My step father was career, he died in a VA hospital.

[Dave Stewart]

But the longer we have a volunteer service, the more casualitys we are going to pay for. The longer we keep our noses in places where it can get shot off, the greater the burden we bare.And they chose to be there, they put themselves in harms way, and someof them feel that we owe them for their choices.Do we?

You asked the question, I answered it.

Your neighbor signed his name and took the oath....he had no bitch when he was called up to serve in harm's way.

Whoever you are talking about that did not know the difference between Medicare and Medicaid has nothing to do with your statement above. Did you inform him? If you did, did you mention to him that Medicare is not accepted at VA Medical Facilities?...Or did you not know that.

Again, I tell you that people that volunteer to serve in the military do not choose where they are sent to serve. You do, through your elected representatives. That makes you and all other Americans responsible for ensuring they receive the medical and other benefits they deserve as promised when they volunteered. That includes your step father that died in a VA hospital, my brother that died of Agent Orange poisoning, my other brother that is slowly dying of Agent Orange poisoning, myself fighting terminal cancer and all the other veterans you made a contract with through your elected representatives.

If you don't like where the military people are being sent to serve and the cost of taking care of those folks serving or that have served, take it up with the folks you elect that make those decisions, not the people that volunteered to serve to keep you free and safe that have no say as to where they serve that were promised they would be taken care of.

You asked the question, I answered it.

[roadrunner]

If we pay teachers to preach, then it becomes mandatory. I believe in freedom of and from religion. My son is a teacher, he gets paid by the state. He also teaches religious education at church on sunday evenings, he gets no pay.I'm a christian, and my bible is the new testament.The teachings of Jesus, who is GOD if you know your nicene creed. I attended parochial school for a few years,and if I wanted to pray in public school I did, silently. This hullalballo about teaching the 10 commandments, should be done in church, with encouragement to OBEY them.

Do you have problem paying for abortions.

[kygorski]

I believe it's a choice that a women has the right to choose.No, I'm not in favor of abortions. My niece has a downs child, and when you see her, you can't stop yourself from picking her up or hugging her.Her other child is a special kid, could read at 4, she goes to a montessori school,and all her talents are yet to be discovered. both the parents knew there would be a problem with the child, but chose to accept them.Now lets go to another common case. Incest, should a 13 year old child be saddled with a child she had no intention of ever having?. How about rape pregnencys? I know the " I knew you in the womb" thing. But to me me life begins at birth. Planned parenthood is not an abortion clinic.I know the conservative viww, protect the fetus, then throw the baby out with bath water.Do you think that all the women on ATC want to be there? Do you complain when a mother pulls out a food voucher to feed a child? How do you feel when a child goes to a school, that is called that because it offers a mediocre education, You guys care for the unborn, because its cheap. And complain like h--- about the costs afterwords. There should be no welfare after the second child with out a father. Dead beat dads should have their benefits with held to pay for burden they put on us. In some cases castration should be performed. Anchor babys, throw them out with the parents. American citizens give birth to american children.

[kygorski]

I said before"better to blind than to only see one thing" I'm Not a clinton fan[female]. But why you warn us before we went helter skelter into Iraq?[add didn't]. Will the donald sue the contractors that stole billions of tax payer money to rebuild Iraq? We push aid on other countries so we can have a say in what they do with the money, and then they steal it. We support warlords in trashcanistan to not grow poppys, and they let or make the people plant them.Look into the future and tell us what the donald will do to or for us.