Hydrogen Fuel Cell Trains Coming Soon

[waterdog101]

California residents who use solar power are being asked to turn off the grids for short periods of time. I guess that its so succesfull that the generating plants are having problems with less usage.supposedly california ranks third in the world for solar power, Germany and china are ahead of it.So what are we going to do, with these upcoming mountains of "clean coal"?

they can send all the coal to ky and burn it, if I remember right most said Obama was crazy for wanting clean solar power.


,http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...128-story.html

[sweetwater]

they can send all the coal to ky and burn it, if I remember right most said Obama was crazy for wanting clean solar power.


,http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...128-story.html

Just to make all the facts known coal is a very viable option for producing hydrogen in large quantities at centralized plants. The United States has enough coal to make all of the hydrogen that the economy could need for more than 200 years. That said, which POTUS deserves credit for promoting the use of hydrogen fuel cells? It's not Obama but being true to the Obama style of politics we can give the credit for that to his predecessor President Bush who announced in February 2003 the FreedomCAR and the Hydrogen Fuel Initiative (HFI) which increased federal funding for hydrogen technologies and fuel cell research, development, and demonstration (RD&D) to $1.7 billion over five years. With that increase in funding, the HFI accelerated the pace of RD&D efforts focused on achieving specific targets that would enable hydrogen and fuel cell technology readiness in the 2015 timeframe. With President Bush's HFI program and President Trump's insistence on preserving the coal mining industry the future of energy independence in the United States looks bright and us folks in this part of the country won't have to be dependent on western states that are blessed with an abundance of cloudless days which is crucial for economically efficient solar energy production.

[Moveon]

Just to make all the facts known coal is a very viable option for producing hydrogen in large quantities at centralized plants. The United States has enough coal to make all of the hydrogen that the economy could need for more than 200 years. That said, which POTUS deserves credit for promoting the use of hydrogen fuel cells? It's not Obama but being true to the Obama style of politics we can give the credit for that to his predecessor President Bush who announced in February 2003 the FreedomCAR and the Hydrogen Fuel Initiative (HFI) which increased federal funding for hydrogen technologies and fuel cell research, development, and demonstration (RD&D) to $1.7 billion over five years. With that increase in funding, the HFI accelerated the pace of RD&D efforts focused on achieving specific targets that would enable hydrogen and fuel cell technology readiness in the 2015 timeframe. With President Bush's HFI program and President Trump's insistence on preserving the coal mining industry the future of energy independence in the United States looks bright and us folks in this part of the country won't have to be dependent on western states that are blessed with an abundance of cloudless days which is crucial for economically efficient solar energy production.

Why in the H would we want to use that dirty coal to do something that solar energy and cleaner natural gas can do? We need to bury the coal industry under about 100 ft of dirt where it belongs. IMHO. I'm sick of breathing air that's been polluted with that nasty dirty coal emissions.

Coal miners should be sick and tired of getting all dirty and breathing coal dust all day long. Geologist can learn to do something else other than to find and dig up that thirty coal. They can learn to design and install cleaner energy resources or go look for gold and diamonds instead of coal.

I worked in the coal fields one day and it was the nastiest job that I ever did. I'd rather sample sewers than dig in the coal fields. And I've done both for a living. Coal is nothing but the dirtiest and nastiest crap in the world. We would be better off burning natural gas.

Solar panels can be used to make electricity that can be use to make Hydrogen and Oxygen which can be stored and used in fuel cells to make electricity or stored in batteries for later use. We don't need coal anymore. Only the coal producers need up to burn coal so that they can continue to make money off us. We don't need them anymore. And the sooner we expand the use of solar energy the better.

Here in IN the coal people have lobbied to get rid of solar energy by getting rid of the subsidies that are paid to people who use solar panels and sell their electricity back to the power plants. This is Senate bill 309 which I hope that the Governor vetoes. He won't but that's just how things are here in coal country. Rigged in favor of the coal producers and power plants that burn coal now.

[sweetwater]

Why in the H would we want to use that dirty coal to do something that solar energy and cleaner natural gas can do? We need to bury the coal industry under about 100 ft of dirt where it belongs. IMHO. I'm sick of breathing air that's been polluted with that nasty dirty coal emissions.

Coal miners should be sick and tired of getting all dirty and breathing coal dust all day long. Geologist can learn to do something else other than to find and dig up that thirty coal. They can learn to design and install cleaner energy resources or go look for gold and diamonds instead of coal.

I worked in the coal fields one day and it was the nastiest job that I ever did. I'd rather sample sewers than dig in the coal fields. And I've done both for a living. Coal is nothing but the dirtiest and nastiest crap in the world. We would be better off burning natural gas.

Solar panels can be used to make electricity that can be use to make Hydrogen and Oxygen which can be stored and used in fuel cells to make electricity or stored in batteries for later use. We don't need coal anymore. Only the coal producers need up to burn coal so that they can continue to make money off us. We don't need them anymore. And the sooner we expand the use of solar energy the better.

Here in IN the coal people have lobbied to get rid of solar energy by getting rid of the subsidies that are paid to people who use solar panels and sell their electricity back to the power plants. This is Senate bill 309 which I hope that the Governor vetoes. He won't but that's just how things are here in coal country. Rigged in favor of the coal producers and power plants that burn coal now.

You don't burn coal to produce hydrogen.

https://energy.gov/fe/science-innova.../hydrogen-coal

[waterdog101]

You don't burn coal to produce hydrogen.

https://energy.gov/fe/science-innova.../hydrogen-coal

if they burn coal or get Hydrogen from coal by gasification , they still end up with a lot of carbon dioxide poison.

[kygorski]

helped put 2 kids in college, and a chance to retire at 58 years of age. We used natural gas to make H2, we also handled LH2, as long as natural gas remains cheap and plentiful it is the cheapest way to produce H2.As a fuel for automobiles, I'd opt for either natural gas or gasoline.Coal gasification is expensive, and dirty, and don't kid yourselves, the user pays for it, and the states also give taxes, and other incentives to make it work.Texas is developing vast wind farms, Indiana has several, alternative energy is only as good as the infastruture to utilize it, and our country is sort of letting that go, that could be a major didaster some day.

[Moveon]

I sat on a committee that helped to kill the Synfuel plants.

Only fools would burn coal to produce hydrogen. Hydrogen can be extracted from water using electricity and the electricity can be made using solar panels or wind mills. No need to burn that dirty stinking coal.

You don't burn coal to produce hydrogen.

https://energy.gov/fe/science-innova.../hydrogen-coal