Nazism vs Communism.

[roadrunner]

I'll take communist over Nazi's any day. We would not have defeated Hitler if not for the Russians fighting the vast majority of the Nazi forces on the Eastern Front for many years before we even entered WWII. Some of the largest battles happened between the Nazi and the Russians on the Eastern Front. Look at your history books about the battle of Kursk.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kursk

Russia only helped us to save their own skin

[kygorski]

Germany would never have defeated russia with out help, BUT that help was material..Napolean tried, and lost, Hitler would have done the same thing.They almost had two armies tied up in russia, and were losing men by the thousands.Russia wasn't and isn't invincible, they lost to japan, couldn't beat finland and got their asses handed to them by afganistan.Theres a common thread here, the home team always in the end WINS.Soon the GUESTS wake up and find there is nothing of any value in that country.

[Moveon]

Germany would never have defeated russia with out help, BUT that help was material..Napolean tried, and lost, Hitler would have done the same thing.They almost had two armies tied up in russia, and were losing men by the thousands.Russia wasn't and isn't invincible, they lost to japan, couldn't beat finland and got their asses handed to them by afganistan.Theres a common thread here, the home team always in the end WINS.Soon the GUESTS wake up and find there is nothing of any value in that country.

Well you're pretty right about Russia and the home field. Germany underestimated Russia. Russia used the winter to help defeat the Nazi. But remember that the USA didn't enter Normandy (Western Europe) until June of 1944. Half of the German Army was sitting in Western Europe while the other half was trying to battle with Russia since about 1942 or maybe it was 1941. Many battles on the Eastern Front were not really reported to the Western Folks. I learned a lot about those battle in my later years. I certainly was never taught about in School.

Russia wanted the USA to attack Hitler much sooner and had to fight the Nazi all alone. They did a pretty good job of that. They moved almost all there factories to the East and set them back up out of reach of the Nazi Blitz and then built the T37 tank and counter attacked the German's in the Heart of the Worst Russian Winter in a long time. The Nazi troops were ill prepared to fight in the cold. So you are right in that the Russian home field helped them win as did it when the French attacked Russia many years in the past. Napoleon meet the Russian winter as well and he was defeated too.

[kygorski]

First there is no ideal government. the word govern means just that, you make the rules to keep society viable. Nationalism, dosen't work because people just keep looking in. communism didn't work, because for the good of all isn't in human nature. Then socialism, whetre the government tries to make everyone happy, at the expense of the wealthy. Capitalism, while it sounds good on paper, leads to plutocracy, such as we are now entering.

[GeoFisher]

First there is no ideal government. the word govern means just that, you make the rules to keep society viable. Nationalism, dosen't work because people just keep looking in. communism didn't work, because for the good of all isn't in human nature. Then socialism, whetre the government tries to make everyone happy, at the expense of the wealthy. Capitalism, while it sounds good on paper, leads to plutocracy, such as we are now entering.

I will take what we have for anything around the world right now..........

PROVE me wrong.

[RIBLUEFISH]

I had read many years ago that the Russians were camped 16 miles from Auchwitz for several weeks before the camp was liberated. The author made the argument that Stalin knew what was going on but figured the more political opponents were disposed of the easier it would be to claim Poland after the war.

[kygorski]

I'm a third generation american of polish immigrants.Many of you guys can go to ancestry .com, and trace your lineage back hundreds of years, we cant. Those who the germans didn't kill, the russians did. I'm an american first, always will be. Our family fought in WW2, korea,and nam. I'm not aware of any that serve or have served in the middle east. Most of them were at an age where they chose education over military service.

[Moveon]

I'm a third generation american of polish immigrants.Many of you guys can go to ancestry .com, and trace your lineage back hundreds of years, we cant. Those who the germans didn't kill, the russians did. I'm an american first, always will be. Our family fought in WW2, korea,and nam. I'm not aware of any that serve or have served in the middle east. Most of them were at an age where they chose education over military service.

No one that I know likes Putin or the Russian's after WWII or now. Russia's invasion of Crimea was the straw that broke the camels back. They invaded Afghanistan as well. They were active in the Vietnam war against the USA. Some of the Mig pilots during the Vietnam war were flown by Russian Pilots. Right now the Russians are supplying the Taliban with Russian arms. Just to make it clear that I don't like Putin and the Russians and 100% support the USA. But what I said earlier is that we fought on the Allied Side during WWII and do Stalin and the Russians. No one liked Hitler and what he did to Germany.

[kygorski]

20 years later, and the lights finally came on. that old adage about eggs in a basket is starting to sink in. WHY did big oil move so much of the refining capacity to the gulf? To save money of course. And of course they recieved aid from the states involved, like infastructure, zoning, enviremental laws and so on. But now, maybe they think they might have miscalculated.Even Rick Perry thinks we should maybe, just maybe, consider building in other states.DUH, They closed four refinerys in northern indiana, moved them to port arthur, and watched two shut downs for weather, before harvey. And there are just wispers, and maybe just a few rumors, that maybe the new refinerys shouldn't even be in the united states. Maybe if corporate america was interested in "making america great again" they sure have strange ways of doing it.